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Idk, they definitely got worse after the Kimi, Tonio years and I don’t think it’s Bottas’ fault

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It’s been a rapid ass decline too, if memory serves they came out swinging in '22 and were pretty rapid during the first half of the season. Didn’t Bottas finish like 5th in Bahrain?

Definitely struggled to keep up development pace and direction this rule set, sort of felt like they just got lost. Progressively gotten slower and slower.

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Yes, they started off in 2022 good because they had a substantially lighter car than the other teams. As the season went on, and other teams got their weight under control (as well as general upgrades), their performance vanished.

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Ah you’re right, I remember now.

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