This is why 20 years ago we had CDs and ripped them to hard drives. Streaming is a sham when you pay continually for access.
lol, ok. You do realize that if you OWN your media you can just hand over a thumbdrive or send the files directly to a friend? CDs are also cheap to burn. You can build an entire library for the cost of a couple months’ streaming access.
You are parroting marketing and those words are hollow.
Sure you could do all that but that depends on your friends having the same music taste and also seems like a pain over just paying a few bucks. Ripping CDs is also pretty damn annoying.
I currently have 6728 liked songs on Spotify. Assuming the average album is around 11 songs per album that would be slightly more than 611 albums. CD albums seem to cost anywhere between 100 and 300 kr, so lets say they cost 150 kr.
150 kr * 611 = 91 650 kr.
Spotify Premium is 116 kr per month.
91 650 / 116 ≈ 770.
770 / 12 ≈ 64 years.
Could I get many of those albums used? Yeah probably.
Could I borrow a few disks from friends? Yeah maybe.
Could I even find all the albums in my country? No, I would have to. import some of the more niche ones.
Could I pirate them? Yeah, sure but that would be very very time consuming and illegal (not that I care about the last part) and we aren’t discussing piracy anyways.
With all that in mind lets just half the amount of years (fairly generously). It’s still a long ass time and the time and monetary invesment it would take to procure all these disks would be that it would very high. My time is also worth something and doing that seems like a gigantic waste of time I could be spending actually listening to music.
I don’t give a jack shit if I don’t own the media afterwards. I’m paying for a service and I get a service. I don’t see the problem.
If you don’t think it’s worthwhile to you then just don’t use it.
You are parroting Lemmy nonsense and those words are hollow.
P.S. If I am gonna burn CDs why not just pirate.
I pirate basically everything, but streaming music isn’t a sham. You pay for the catalogue and the recommendation feed. Getting anything close to an actual streaming platforms variety and convenience through piracy is hard and frankly not worth the effort.
You pay for the catalogue and the recommendation feed.
…and the artists get peanuts.
I listen to a lot of music. like, a lot. and yet from my calculations the artist I’ve listened to the most during that year still didn’t get even a dollar from my listens. and with how absolutely garbage the Spotify app has become, I’ve resorted to just archiving my entire collection online in lossless format and buying albums I particularly like on Bandcamp every now and then. it costs me less than an ongoing subscription because one purchase is just one or two month’s worth of Spotify Premium, I get to keep the music even if the service goes down, I don’t have podcasts that I don’t want shoved in my face, and the artists I like actually get something from me.
CDs were sooo much more expensive than streaming. I would spend $12 to $18 per CD in early 2000’s dollars and buy multiple CDs per month.
This feels like trying to explain forests to someone who only wants to tell me about their favorite tree.
I get how the technology has changed. As an elder millennial, my entire life has been a constant shift of technology. From analog to digital, and back again- from betamax to DVDs, from 8 tracks to tapes to pocket rockers to mini discs to ipods. And including resurgences as people “discovered” the benefits of vinyl.
My point is that this new paradigm has shifted ownership of what we pay for away from consumers, to give gatekeeping power to corporate entities that can shut down, or shut off access, on a whim. And what’s the ROI? Increasing access costs without ownership is just a more expensive lease.
I am simply arguing that physical media puts consumers in a greater position of control over the property they have paid for than streaming. And I am intimating that it’s by design that technology “leaders” have moved away from allowing people to OWN what they buy.
Of course, but it’s worth pointing out that PCs phased out the addition of ROM drives, which allowed the layperson to rip their content. Naturally, this allowed Apple and ilk to introduce streaming access, as though it was a fucking boon. No CD/DVD-Rom, no ports, just an enshittified processor, display, and a cloud. Because THAT’S WHAT WE ARE TELLING YOU YOU WANT.
Enshittified processor? What are you talking about? Processors are vastly better than they used to be, have much wider functionality, and they’re cheaper than they used to be.
Screens are so much better than they used to be that I feel like you’re trolling. Do you want to go back to shitty smeary 16:9 768p TN panels with terrible accuracy, viewing angles, refresh rates, contrast, huge light bleed? Because I sure don’t.
PCs got rid of disc drives because nobody used them and they used up a huge amount of space.
USB disc drives exist. They are cheap. There’s nothing stopping you from using CDs.
My whole music library is local and DRMless. I find CDs highly impractical in the age of cheap high-capacity storage. I would rip them anyway, as using normal copies is just far more convenient, after which they’d need to either waste space, be resold or be thrown out. If I were insistent on paying and there was no DRMless option, I’d rather buy a DRMed copy corresponding to the one I downloaded.
