Don’t think I need to summarize this one. This should be world news right now. This is bad news for everyone.

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Individual actions are a distraction. Only collective action can change the course of society.

I highly recommend looking into what local groups are working on this issue in your area and sign up.

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Good idea. If I’m gonna sabotage oil infrastructure I’ll need some help.

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I can’t tell if you’re joking but very few organizations are doing that sort of action which is generally quite risky. There are a range of actions between the sort of personal responsibility actions you’re doing and outright sabotage. I know people here are generally dismissive of these but letter-writing, petitions, marches, etc. can all be effective parts of a political movement, as can more radical actions like blockades or strikes.

Personally, I think sabotage has to be carefully considered in the context of a broader campaign or it risks becoming an element of reactionary propaganda. It doesn’t help that our culture has for decades, perhaps centuries conflated property damage with violence against people, and this often makes people unsure if those who engage in the former might also engage in the latter. While I could see that sabotage might be morally justified in some situations, it’s not clear that it’s the correct tactic when the climate movement is as small and weak as it is right now.

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Letter writing and petitions and marches have been going on for decades now and haven’t worked. I know, I was there.

And at least if we blow up a pipeline it’ll be better than throwing soup on a painting or gluing myself to a road.

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They’re not a distraction. Lots of us have solar, eliminated fossil fuels in the home, use public transit, don’t buy shit we don’t need, etc. Thats literally collective action, and we need a lot more people to do it. Nobody is pretending like their single action is going to magically fix everything.

What does collective action mean to you? We have tax incentives for electrification as a result of policies borne from voting correctly in 2020 - now actually getting those solar panels is an individual action that magically doesn’t matter? Or is it a result of collective action and it is ok?

Everyone should be doing as much as they possibly can given their means - personal and collective. It’s not an either or.

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