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There’s also a number of things you have to click “no” on, like a free trial office or Onedrive.

It took me around an hour to set up my new Win 11 laptop, most of which was downloading and installing updates. I expected far worse.

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Oh please, we spend an hour fucking around in a new Linux install to get things the way we like them too.

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A new Linux installation is usually usable and you spend an hour tailoring it to your specific needs. While in a new Windows installation I spend the first hour remembering things that’ll start popping up/executing in the background and disabling them just to get it to a usable state.

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Just learn how to install windows the way you want it to be just like you learn the best way to install a distro. Debloated windows takes minutes to install and takes so little actual effort if you know what you’re doing.

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Man, people are really liberal with the word “usable” around here. As if a plain windows install is somehow this thing that can’t be understood or used. Come on, it makes it hard to take these convos seriously. Millions of people use just plain, out of the box, Windows.

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Thaaaaank you for being the fucking voice of reason

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I would argue it takes even longer to get a windows install how I like it. Even using Chris Titus Tech’s tool, it probably takes 2 hours for me to install things like winget, steam, librewolf, libreoffice, blender and configure the task bar and lock screen. Not to mention how last time I checked, I could not rebind the windows key to trigger the app overview how I like it.

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How I want a windows install is “working, with no BS”.

It comes out the box working, all I needed to do was disable Onedrive on boot. I haven’t even bothered to change the background, and probably won’t.

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How often are you installing windows? I deploy probably 7-8 a week. I can have an image usable without telemetry in 10 minutes.

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That’s not windows tho, that’s setting up your entire fucking digital life to your satisfaction. The meme is about like, going to the task bar and telling Microsoft “no this isnt just a shitty gnome, please use my entire monitor”

For everything else just use winget-ui and install everything you want

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No, see: some of us spend countless hours setting up their NixOS config repo, which is totally worth it because you save half an hour when moving to a new machine

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Getting Mint the way I like it takes about 20 minutes, including the install itself.

Of course, I usually spend four or five hours trying other distros first, before eventually deciding on Mint.

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The updates often do take many times the install time which can be a bit frustrating, though it is an area being worked on: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/introducing-windows-11-checkpoint-cumulative-updates/4182552

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It’s honestly not that bad, it’s not like you’re required to actually do anything while this is happening.

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And downloading updates is a good thing. Means that the fresh installation isn’t vulnerable to something that was fixed between when the USB / DVD was pressed and the time the person installed it.

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Yeah, and you can wander off and do something else in the meantime.

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