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49 points

Windows requires pressing next 12 times, what are you people smoking and can I haz?

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There’s also a number of things you have to click “no” on, like a free trial office or Onedrive.

It took me around an hour to set up my new Win 11 laptop, most of which was downloading and installing updates. I expected far worse.

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12 points

Oh please, we spend an hour fucking around in a new Linux install to get things the way we like them too.

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9 points

A new Linux installation is usually usable and you spend an hour tailoring it to your specific needs. While in a new Windows installation I spend the first hour remembering things that’ll start popping up/executing in the background and disabling them just to get it to a usable state.

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6 points

No, see: some of us spend countless hours setting up their NixOS config repo, which is totally worth it because you save half an hour when moving to a new machine

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I would argue it takes even longer to get a windows install how I like it. Even using Chris Titus Tech’s tool, it probably takes 2 hours for me to install things like winget, steam, librewolf, libreoffice, blender and configure the task bar and lock screen. Not to mention how last time I checked, I could not rebind the windows key to trigger the app overview how I like it.

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1 point

Thaaaaank you for being the fucking voice of reason

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1 point

Getting Mint the way I like it takes about 20 minutes, including the install itself.

Of course, I usually spend four or five hours trying other distros first, before eventually deciding on Mint.

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2 points

And downloading updates is a good thing. Means that the fresh installation isn’t vulnerable to something that was fixed between when the USB / DVD was pressed and the time the person installed it.

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Yeah, and you can wander off and do something else in the meantime.

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The updates often do take many times the install time which can be a bit frustrating, though it is an area being worked on: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/introducing-windows-11-checkpoint-cumulative-updates/4182552

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It’s honestly not that bad, it’s not like you’re required to actually do anything while this is happening.

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2 points

See, Ubuntu only requires pressing next 6 times, and Fedora is only 8.

That’s essentially what it boils down to nowadays.

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Unless you want tpm backed full disk encryption in which case… Good luck

One click for Mac and windows, a lifetime of fun for Linux (except arch w/sysdboot which works pretty good)

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I’m happy with regular password FDE, i think i’m more likely to encounter hardware failure (and then need to read the drive from another machine) than theft of the drive.

It’s a good point though, I’m sure many people do need this feature. Ubuntu is “working on it” but so far i guess it’s mostly not working except for VMs

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But then you have to wait 45 minutes for Windows update to spin, and potentially hang in the middle

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4 points

Is it difficult for you to wait?

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2 points

No, that’s fair. Annoying but not difficult.

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-5 points

With a MS account. Which spies on everything and sells your info.

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6 points

Use Rufus, skip online account and automatically opt out of telemetry.

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2 points

Oobe\bypassnro

Thank me later

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Or just use software that you don’t need to mod to do what you want. That’s easier.

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I’ve been asking for several years for anything remotely resembling proof of this.

Will you be the first person to actually provide it? (I swear to fucking god if you link me to the terms of use…)

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2 points

How do you think they advertise to you in the search bar?

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What is the very first thing you do after installing the super private and much sekure Linux? You download Steam and give Valve your data. This is bullshit.

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2 points

So is Microsoft

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