I’ve often assumed Harris didn’t want to insult her boss by going against him, because I got the impression she was planning to give Netanyahu what for once she took over - especially with him escalating things further and further. Did anyone else get that vibe, or was it just wishful thinking on my part?

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Despite the best economy in the world AND Netanyahu backing Trump.

The stupidity is off the charts.

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The problem is the term.

Politicians and pundits talk about the economy referring to the stock market.

Citizens talk about the economy referring to the supermarket.

The US government can only directly affect the former, and most of our nation just can’t comprehend that.

Nixon attempted to freeze grocery prices for 90 days with an Executive Order. It resulted in emptying grocery stores and record inflation when the order expired. It was called the “Nixon Shock.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock

If you want the government to control the price of food, then you should probably move to a communist nation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/07/business/worldbusiness/07iht-controls.4.11735373.html

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If you want the government to control the price of food, then you should probably move to a communist nation.

Don’t threaten me with a good time. /s

JK. The US being the US they’d immediately turn into north Korea before adopting real communist policies.

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Uh, North Korea is very much not a communist country. It’s a totalitarian state whose name says they’re a “democratic republic”, and whose leadership claim is a flavor of communism, but it is absolutely nothing of the sort.

Edit: yeah whoops, I munged the semantics of your comment

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The cognitive dissonance required for the economy being both the "best " and yet also people can’t afford bread is a privilege that people living pay check to paycheck simply can’t afford. Child poverty hit its all time low under Biden. Then it doubled under Biden . More American’s are living paycheck to paycheck than ever before: now a majority. Look at the memes and conversation happening in the memes here on lemmy. The struggle to afford basic goods and services is a constant theme.

When you gaslight people, telling them to ignore their lived experience and to “trust” an analysis of economy that clearly only serves billionaires: What do you expect that does to their trust in your rhetoric?

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Just so everyone knows. Child poverty went down because Dems had enough power to expand the child tax credit as part of Bidens American rescue plan. The expanded credit then expired and Republicans have blocked passage of the renewed expansion. This is another thing where Republicans will do anything to harm Democrats including voting against extremely popular programs. I agree that it sucks the poverty went back up, but Dems reduced it and Republicans increased it.

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The deciding vote on ending that tax credit was Joe Manchin.

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Yes, but to be charitable to the people out there, they are specifically targeted by mega corporations to hole them up into a conservative-affirming digital content feed.

They are victims just as much as they are stupid.

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By that logic nazi soldiers in WWII would be victims.

I don’t think the result of ignorance and stupidity are permissible.

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It’s on an entirely different level today. Propaganda has always been useful for swaying public opinion, but we live in a world where an entire generation of the world’s most brilliant minds have been set to the task of optimizing ad revenue. And they certainly succeeded.

Unfortunately it turns out that “increasing engagement” virtually requires pigeonholing people into an ever-increasingly-radical echo chamber.

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They weren’t necessarily victims, but you can’t just write them off as evil monsters.

We need to understandwhy people could go along with it so that we can prevent it from happening again.

It’s like saying global warming is because we pissed off Almighty Zeus, and not doing anything else to address climate change.

It’s good you’re upset about it and admit it’s a problem, but we need to actually take steps to stop it.

For decades what non voters have said for the reason they don’t vote is “both parties are the same”. They’re obviously not, however both parties moving to the right isn’t differentiating them enough for enough voters.

The solution is Dems moving left so the difference is more obvious.

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Yeah bruh, your head is completely fucked if you think that tariffs, labor shortages, and selling $8 trillion in bonds is going to help you out at the fucking grocery store. Idiots gonna learn, I tell you what. Pardon my use of the general “you”, I don’t mean you in particular.

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I totally agree with you. People are just plain stupid, and right wing politicians are really good at grifting idiots.

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Yeah bruh, your head is completely fucked if you think that tariffs, labor shortages, and selling $8 trillion in bonds is going to help you out at the fucking grocery store.

Many people don’t believe that Trump will actually do the things he said he’d do, because it wasn’t that bad his last term and they see the reactions to his first election as hysterical in retrospect. Those that believe he will do the things he said – a minority in his coalition I think – are wingnuts that are in favor of those things.

It’s all stupid, and leaves out that the “deep state”, institutions, and moderating voices in his administration – which Trump is looking to eliminate in his second term – constrained him and kept the country largely business as usual despite his shenanigans. The adults in the room had the effect of saving us from a lot of Trump’s worst impulses, and for people who do not pay attention to politics this made the Trump-Pence administration retroactively palatable.

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If this is the best economy in the world I don’t blame people for wanting to blow it up.

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We’re still in recovery from covid, as is everyone else. As much as everyone likes to pretend it never happened, or it is ancient history, it’s effects are still being seen.

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Right? Like, four years ago we had to shutdown big chunks of the world, inject trillions of Dollars of money into circulation to keep things vaguely moving, millions of deaths, logistical and manufacturing delays galore, and people are pissed that we’re not better off than we were before. So pissed that they want to take control from the people who have been turning it around and give it back to the people who fucked it up in the first place.

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Which explains why every party that held power during COVID has lost elections since then.

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