Comment by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world on "it's making me uncomfortable"

This is why America deserves everything it voted for this time around.

Not everyone voted for Trump, but even so, people don’t deserve pain just because they’re bad.

Stop this puritanical bs.

Nazis deserve no quarter. Learn some history, you’re edging pretty close to Nazi apologia.

People that voted for bad things to happen don’t deserve bad things to happen?

Wut!?

No one “deserves” pain.

Sometimes you have to apply harm to stop greater harm, but the concept of “deserving” harm is disgusting.

If you have to use violence on someone, to stop them from causing greater harm, they deserved it.

If I have to use violence on someone, I am sad that the situation is such that I have to do so, and I wish it weren’t so.

This doesn’t mean they don’t deserve it. It just means you are sad it had to come to this. The fact that you had to resort to violence, due to how awful they are, means they deserved it. Had they not deserved it, you wouldn’t have great cause to be violent. Unless you are becoming violent towards people that would respond to lesser input, they deserved it.

Garbage take. Bring on the face eating leopards.

No, but it is a democracy and so just how the racists had to put up with Biden, now everyone else has to put up with The Racist.

That was it. Good day.

A lot of people are going to suffer who didn’t vote for him. This is as callous as the fascists.

Sure and that’s a sacrifice that America voted for and also literally didn’t even bother voting against.

After nearly half a decade of disappointment, I this it’s high time Americans felt the pain of their actions.

there are alot of voters that didn’t vote *at all *.

Can you see how that doesn’t change the response you replying to?

Some people didn’t vote for him

Well other people didn’t vote

Are two unrelated statements.

And yet here we are.

Conservative / fascist leaders deserve it, the rest of us do not. The kids who were too young to vote, the leftists who fight against fascism, and the workers who don’t have the time to follow politics do not deserve any of what is to come.

You had me until that last group.

If you opt out of participating, you deserve whatever happens without you.

We’re in this mess arguably because of all the people who chose not to participate.

The left cuts down their candidates and elected officials over any faults, while the right uplifts them regardless of any faults. Is it any surprise the Dems always look bad in comparison to an uninformed voter.

Is anyone really that uninformed though?

People voted for the racist rapist. Ignorant would be a component

The left has no candidates. The last time centrists didn’t get 100% of everything they wanted, they formed a PAC to try to get McCain elected, but they’ll certainly get mad at anyone who even considers expecting better.

I guess the theory is if people sit it out, handing it to the Republicans, the Dems will get shocked into moving left in the future? Seems like a gamble to me. Wouldn’t it make more sense to do that during primary season?

No. There is literally nothing that can happen and certainly nothing I can say that will get spoiled centrists to ever accept that in order to get voters to the polls, you might have to get only 98% of everything you want.

You need to court voters. You consider such behavior beneath you.

The party is willing to throw anyone but Netanyahu and Cheney under the bus and has no fucking clue at all why people stay home.

Second worst isn’t sufficient to win. Blaming the voters because you don’t want to be better won’t change that.

And primary season?! What primary season? Democrats haven’t had a primary without a preordained winner since 2008. We didn’t even have primaries this year. And the last time centrists didn’t get their very first choice in the primaries, they formed a PAC to get McCain elected. Don’t preach about primaries when they’re a sham and you always get what you want out of them.

Young voters voted for Trump. Tons of kids support him: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/young-men-voters-trump-2024-exit-polls

Unionized workers had grassroots support for Trump: https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/teamsters-endorsement-harris-trump-2024

Staunch democrats sat out, or protest voted: https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2024/11/07/why-biden-outperformed-harris-throughout-metro-detroit

Ignorantia juris non excusat. Ignorance of the law excuses not.

America is objectively, measurably, ignorant, trapped in bubbles, and we collectively did little to lift each other out. We are going to face justice for it.

Can’t wait to see all the sad Pikachu faces when he guts union protections and outlaws public sector unions altogether. “Can’t wait”

“Why do liberals do this to us? This is a failure of the demonrat party, next time I’m voting for Trump harder, he promised to help us”

Which is what happened in 2016 exactly.

Lard ass promised to “make coal mining great again”.

They got nothing, which was to be expected.

Biden, as much as I find faults with him, actually did come through big for unions and the unions members, I’m sorry but they’re not the brightest here and we’re failed by their union leadership and by Democrats to get it through their thick skulls that Democrats actually did a shit ton for them and had their backs.

“Yeah, but liberal Hollywood offended me with their wokeness”. Or, “Yeah, but the smartypants college grads talked down to me”

Yeah, except only a minority of the population voted for this. It’d be great if only they bore the fruits of their stupid labors.

I deserve whatever. But my kids don’t.

Then get them out of America

The people who voted for evil do.

The people who failed to vote against evil do, but less.

The people who voted against evil? No fuckin chance.

“America” is too wide a brush, but I get talking that way.

Have a civil war then

Arguably, we still are.

Pour one out for all the people drilled into being ultra-gullible when it comes to Fox&Co-Conspirators and completely immunised to viewpoints that contradict the propaganda machine. Would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

I guess the issue is that, assuming a turnout of 60% for simplicity, the undeserving third category you mention only makes up roughly 30% of eligible voters. Which means 70% of eligible voters are deserving of what’s coming to them (according to you). I acknowledge that throwing the whole country into the same bucket is not a fair and helpful simplification, but it’s becoming increasingly harder to resist the urge.

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