Senior Democrats in US cities are preparing to defend their communities in the event of Donald Trump’s return to the White House after the former president has repeated threats that he would use presidential powers to seize control of major urban centers.

Trump has proposed deploying the military inside major cities largely run by Democrats to deal with protesters or to crush criminal gangs. He has threatened to dispatch large numbers of federal immigration agents to carry out mass deportations of undocumented people in so-called “sanctuary” cities.

He also aims to obliterate the progressive criminal justice policies of left-leaning prosecutors.

“In cities where there has been a complete breakdown of law and order … I will not hesitate to send in federal assets including the national guard until safety is restored,” Trump says in the campaign platform for his bid to become the 47th US president, Agenda47.

Trump provoked uproar earlier this week when he called for US armed forces to be deployed against his political rivals – “the enemy within” – on election day next month. But his plans to use national guard troops and military personnel as a means to attack those he sees as his opponents go much wider than that, spanning entire cities with Democratic leadership.

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If they had the ability to repeal the 2nd, they would. The end goal is alway complete removal. Let’s stop acting like its not.

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They say with zero evidence.

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I never understood why it’s something that Dems want to hide. There is a pretty damn large portion that want to repeal the 2nd.

https://time.com/5216782/john-paul-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/

https://newrepublic.com/article/166628/democrats-repeal-second-amendment-guns

https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-joint-resolution/81

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/opinions/gun-reform-second-amendment-repeal-uvalde-shooting-press/index.html

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/repeal-second-amendment-gun-control/

https://www.amazon.com/Repeal-Second-Amendment-Safer-America/dp/1250244404

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/national-firearms-act

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a19608552/major-owens-second-amendment-repeal/

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2019/bills/SCR42_.pdf

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2022/07/11/jayland-walker-highland-park-uvalde-second-amendment/7809531001/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p

Because the poll has somehow vanished…

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/one-in-five-americans-wants-the-second-amendment-to-be-repealed-national-survey-finds/

In February, for instance, the Economist and YouGov asked Americans whether they supported a repeal of the Second Amendment. Just 21 percent said they favored such a proposal, compared to 60 percent in opposition.

The poll does, however, show surprisingly robust support for Second Amendment repeal (39 percent) among Democrats (by contrast just 8 percent of Republicans would support a full repeal).

So can we stop pretending that support to repeal and ban all guns isn’t something that is the end goal?

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Lmao, throwing the kitchen sink at us and hoping we won’t check the details?

  1. Retired Supreme Court Judge

  2. Opinion article saying Democrats should, by a staff writer

  3. A House Bill from 20 years ago with no co-sponsors, that didn’t even make it out of committee.

  4. A Podcaster’s opinion article

  5. Opinion article saying Democrats should, by a staff writer

  6. College Professor wrote a book

  7. The law saying you can’t have fully automatic weapons, (LMFAO, really? you think that’s a repeal of the second?)

  8. An article about the the representative from number 3, who again, acted alone, admitted he acted without party support, and admitted it was little more than a political stunt. Thank you for giving us the first real evidence that Democrats are not trying to ban guns or repeal the second.

  9. Some state legislators asking for a clarifying amendment. Which, (checks notes), yup completely ignored by the party.

  10. A paywalled opinion piece by a staff writer.

  11. Your Seattle Times article puts those numbers in the correct light, because 39 percent isn’t a majority or anywhere near enough to force action on the national level.

But public-opinion polling shows it would take a lot of persuading to bring the public around to that view. In February, for instance, the Economist and YouGov asked Americans whether they supported a repeal of the Second Amendment. Just 21 percent said they favored such a proposal, compared to 60 percent in opposition.

So no. The answer is no. Because despite using eleven sources you could not find any evidence the democrats are actually trying to ban all guns. Even if we repealed the second amendment it wouldn’t ban all guns, it would just open the opportunity to regulate them.

I will however say that every time the GOP offers thoughts and prayers over the bodies of children, that number grows and once it reaches a tipping point a ban will be inevitable and there will be no glorious civil war because support will just be that high. If the GOP backed off for even a second and allowed red flag laws and universal background check, and had their state AGs prosecute those laws then there would be less shit for law abiding gun owners to wade through. Which is why 75 percent of Americans support Universal Background Check and Gun Licensing. The country is still willing to work with you, that may not be true in a another decade with a hundred more high profile mass casualty events at schools.

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Let’s stop following GOP propaganda by pretending that it is.

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https://lemmy.world/comment/12950998

Let’s stop acting like the person you’re discussing firearms with is a gop supporter…yea?

None of my sources are gop driven links…so…have fun.

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39% support among Democrats. Not all Democrats, not a plurality, and not even a majority.

Two of those fucking links went to the same stupid bill from 1994 that a handful of people put forward as an alternative to the assault weapons ban, and one of them is goddamn sticker on Amazon. You really are grasping at straws here.

I can understand the appeal for repealing the 2nd amendment, since a lot of people consider it too vague to have any real meaning, and the conservative loaded SC has determined that “well regulated militia” extends to groups of racist hilljacks in a pickup shooting unarmed black men.

That being said though… 39% of Dems oppose it, which means that the Democratic party as a whole is 61% in favor of keeping it.

So, are you gonna take the L and delete your comment, or are you gonna post another wall of bullshit that you didn’t even bother to read before calling it gospel and spreading it over the fediverse?

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If we ever have the ability to repeal the 2A then the GOP is already in shambles and we’ll have the opportunity to make all kinds of other reforms that makes it impossible for them to recover.

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