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Wife and I have a longstanding argument over whether free-will exists.

I say it does and she has no choice but to say otherwise.

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and she has no choice

I am forced to see what you did there :D

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One time I was talking about this with my friends. I said I believe it exists and they all laughed and said “particles have rules, you’re made of particles.” 🥺

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Consider this, free will can still be pre-planned. We can choose what we want to do, so what if it was pre planned? I still chose it.

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I like to change definitions to secure my position also

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what definition did I change?

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Why do we need to bother executing it then? Choice has no value if agency to exercise it is revoked at any stage.

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Not executing it would also be predetermined. The only thing you can do is pretend to choose.

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if we don’t, then the predetermined outcome won’t happen!

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How is it a choice if there is no other options?

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/woosh

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Free will exists because I can change my mind about liking or wanting something.

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I want to rebuke you but you name is even more triggering. There is no linear chaos, you need non-linearities or discontinuities for chaos.

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