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I voted for him but hate how he talked shit about the Patriot act overstepping then extended it and took away even more of our rights.

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Congress extended it. Obama simply didn’t veto it. Perhaps that makes him complicit but it sailed through the Senate in a 67-32 vote which is likely to never happen ever again and a veto would only get overridden by Congress, which makes a President appear weak.

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No perhaps. He spoke against. Under his presidency the added rolling phone taps. That is just as bad as W. I guess he is a little better because he didn’t lie about an attack on America to pass it.

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What would you have liked him to do in order to stop it from passing?

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I wish a politician ‘told us how it is’ by relaying to us how it actually is. Like, the power structure and the way shit gets accomplished by government. We have no clue. People running for office have a jist of a clue. Those in power are burdened by the system. I wish we knew more about the system.

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the way shit gets accomplished by government

Well, largely, it doesn’t. And the reason for that is because few people in the US government right now know how to operate a government.

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Many in the government in fact don’t want the government to operate.

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Also, not a fan of him ordering the extra judicial killing of American citizens.

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The downvoters apparently are fans of that

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Weirdo blue maga people, blue no matter who people. They are worse than red maga in some ways.

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It happens 🤷

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I’m fine with it, but only because those specific Americans were assholes and weren’t in a place they could be taken for trial.

I wouldn’t mind a trial in absentia, but I also understand time was a concern.

Before you say ‘oh yeah, what about others in the future!?!?’, everyone got that pissed over a few that pretty clearly deserved it, I’m not too worried about a potus drone striking random people at Walmart just yet.

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Politics is the art of the possible.

Except that what’s possible is waaaaaaaay less than you think.

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