More dataisdepressing than dataisbeautiful
Is anyone brave enough to ask why?
Women are rightfully concerned about the loss of bodily autonomy. They donβt want to live in the handmaids tale.
That explains the US, but thatβs about it.
For example Europe there are no movements towards making abortion illegal, quite the contrary.
Iβm sure that is part of it but proposing that as the sole reason seems unnecessarily reductive.
When pregnancy and child birth are such a monumental part of a persons life, and the ability to choose whether or not to go through that process is taken away, it makes a lot of sense why this is the βsole reasonβ for some women. As someone who very recently gave birth, everything else in the world and other political topics are dwarfed by the absolute earth-shattering life event that is bringing a child into this world. I think it is something that people who havenβt been through it themselves, or who are not empethetic can not wrap their heads around. But there is absolutely a reason why many women are voting liberal for abortion rights alone. That is the single freedom that contributes most directly to a womens adult life. While tax policies and national affairs have an impact on everyones day to day lives, reproductive rights have an acute impact on womens immediate futures.
Bro really said that losing all right to bodily autonomy isnβt a good enough reason to dramatically shift someoneβs political leaning
This is probably more of a symptom than a cause, but social media platforms pushing manosphere content isnβt helping.
I wasnβt paying attention for like 2 seconds and it went from βMen also have rightsβ to βAndrew Tate is a role modelβ, like WTF internet, stop ruining good things, fuck.
Unfortunately, βMenβs Rightsβ was a bait and switch. The Alpha/Sigma ideology says there can only ever be a handful of βTrue Menβ worthy of human rights. Everyone else has to either prove themselves through combat or submit to being less than human.
Shock value gets upvotes and downvotes.
There was a famous radical feminist from decades ago who argued all men should be killed. I donβt think she was relevant during twitter or in the recent internetβ¦ if she had been, idk π€·ββοΈ
I think the problem with some of these issues is that there are academic theories that are being discussed, which end up getting reduced by non academics and applied to specific individuals.
In the menβs rights forums it becomes men and boys are being left behind, this gets turned into pointing at a specific woman and blaming her.
Likewise in feminist ideology there is the idea of the patriarchy, this gets turned into some people pointing fingers at specific men and blaming them.
Andrew Tate blaming normal life issues on women and pushing teenagers to be very hateful against them is one big reason
If the issues young men had wherent real he wouldnt have the followers. We do account for 75% of suicides so Tateβs diagnosis is correct just his treatment is wrong.
He preys on vulnerable young men, yes, thatβs the point. There are healthier male role models online but Iβm not sure youtube shares them widely.
This is such a wildly intelligent comment that Iβm curious what the down voters think. Guessing either Tate fans or ignoramuses, but Iβm happy to be proven wrong.
Itβs βThe Wokeβ. Women are more visible in society as they are treated more equally, so certain (yes not all men) men see that as men losing rights and want to go back to βthe good old daysβ
If you created a similar graph mapping the ideology gap between races or straight and LGBTQIA+ theyβd look very similar.
The answer is simple the media is radicalizing people and gender is one of their primary motivations it is hand tailored to divide and conquer minds.
Fascism is sociologically rooted in the sexual insecurity of men. Thatβs why itβs always men driving it.
Fascism is Capitalism in decline. Masculinity is a recognized part of fascism, but fascism is rooted in Capitalist decay, not in moral failures of men.
Fascism is capitalism when the capitalist class gets too successful, as soon as the capitalists realize they can establish fascism they always do.
Masculinity by your argument is also rooted in the development of vaccines, all of the aspects of technological progress, and also all progressive social movements that have resulted in more equitable distribution of political power, ie voting rights act, giving women the vote, etc.
Do you have a reason to think this or did it just sound good in your head
There is a ton of academic interest in the relationship between sexuality and fascism. It was first noted in βThe Mass Psychology of Fascismβ by Wilhelm Reich after WW2. My comment is, of course, a massive oversimplification of a complex social dynamic.
Itβs the same dynamic that made US racists paranoid that black men wanted to rape white women when, in fact, their deeper fear was that white women wanted to have sex with black men. Fascists are particularly sensitive to sexual relations between βtheir womenβ and whomever they have chosen to blame for all their misfortunes.
So facism is mens fault? I wonder how that effects a young man who isnt a facist while they are developing? Ur narrative is actively harming young men and driving them to be the very thing u swore to drstroy.
No, itβs not βmenβsβ fault, but the people whoβs fault it is are primarily men. Thatβs not an opinion, thatβs just history, not to mention whatβs happening before our eyes. Even women who are fascist push patriarchy. There is no point in debating whether fascism is primarily a male driven phenomenon. The only legitimate question is why?
Your misconstruing the statement. Fascism is a way for insecure men to feel powerful. These men are feeling insecure due to lack of job prospects, lack of honest to God to physical insecurity, and that also makes them less desirable to potential mates.
The way to protect against fascism is to ensure proper addressing of Maslowβs-goddamn-hierarchy of needs. Endstage, capitalism leads to fascism, but it has to secure itself in spreading racism and sexism.
I knew it as soon as I read your βTate is rightβ bullshit.
So facism is mens fault?
Yes. Men had all the political power in the countries that turned to fascism in the past. If you knew any history this would be obvious.
I wonder how that effects a young man who isnt a facist while they are developing?
The same way that one woman having an abortion harms another woman; not at all.
Ur narrative is actively harming young men and driving them to be the very thing u swore to drstroy.
Itβs room temperature IQ weakling reactionaries like you that are harming young men. Real men stand against fascists.
The only possible explanation for any of this is that men are bad and we should definitely not examine the underlying causes and material conditions at all.
Womenβs lib has been great for women but not so good for men. So men are becoming reactionary.
Bullshit. Most men suffer under toxic patriarchy as well. I absolutely love that this shit is finally getting pulled into the spotlight. I have not suffered a single iota of harm from anything βwokeβ and I would argue that no honest man has either.
How do men suffer under patriarchy? Do u really want to be the one blaming 75% of suicides on men not being allowed to beat their wives? Sounds like ur calling all cis men evil bad people. I wonder what such a narrative would do to a young man trying to develop a sence of self, identity, and personal ideology?
