Comment by UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on Lebanon’s health minister says 8 killed, 2,750 wounded by exploding pagers

None dare call it Terrorism.

Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

While it’s likely there were civilians hurt by this, the target was undeniably Hesbollah. So no, not terrorism.

Stunning that you’re being downvoted. This was a brilliant attack on a group that actually attacks Israel actually indiscriminately on the daily.

There you go conflating Jews and Israel. Apart from that you have an arguable point.

Israelis and cops just doesn’t sound as snappy.

It’s less antisemitic though. Please don’t conflate Jewish people with Israel, it’s caused enough problems as it is.

National order isnt based on tit for tat. If someone commits a war crime against you it doesnt mean you get to do it too.

In my opinion the time of day they chose to blow them shows they wanted as much collateral damage as they could.

What’s the advantage of making excuses for committing war crimes?

At a certain point it stops being worth it. If sending a brainwashed 11 yo to blow up a checkpoint means you can no longer trust having any technology near you, your family and friends it might cause hesitation.

Wishful thinking, they aren’t fighting because they want to. Noone likes violence.

Ah, you see it from Israel’s POV. Interesting.

Is there any time of day it’s not atrocious? Seems like any time would have basically equal risk for collateral casualties.

To be effective it all had to be at once. It seems that they waited until the pagers were being used to coordinate a fresh wave of rocket attacks with promises of more to come before setting them off.

Is there any time of day it’s not atrocious? Seems like any time would have basically equal risk for collateral casualties.

Then maybe it shouldn’t be done at all.

Maybe all an army has to do to take over the entire world is bring their families to the front. Can’t shoot back at them because their families are there. So they pretty much win every engagement. Problem solved. No more wars.

Maybe nobody should fight wars ever. Grow up.

Because that time of day is when the most people will be out in public. It seems deliberately designed to cause as much damage as widely as possible. Likely to cause fear in the population.

They put explosives in the pagers but no shrapnel, so how does your conclusion make sense? If Israel wanted to simply cause mass damage, this would be a most incompetent way to do it.

I would agree with this if they somehow only harmed Hezbollah severely. That was not the case.

I agree, but it’s still a step up from dropping a laser guided bomb on a 10 storey apartment building because somebody in Hamas might be there.

Likely because the bulk of those wounded by this attack were not Hezbollah

I don’t even know how you’d reasonably expect to only injure your targets in an attack as widespread and remote as this one. Seems blatantly indiscriminate at best.

Likely because the bulk of those wounded by this attack were not Hezbollah

What makes you think that? These pagers were bought by Hesbollah to be used by their guys.

Because anyone within 5 meters of the pager also was hurt.

These pagers were bought by Hesbollah

All we know is that a bunch of exploding pagers were distributed through Lebanon. The IDF claims they were given to Hezbollah agents, but they’ve been caught lying regularly.

Delete this post as mis info.

At least 12 people were killed after the attacks,[60][1][61] and more than 2,750 were wounded.[5][6] Civilians were also killed,[10][13][14] including four healthcare workers[62] and two children.[63] It is not clear if only Hezbollah members were carrying the pagers.[19] Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad said the vast majority of those being treated in emergency rooms were in civilian clothing and their Hezbollah affiliation was unclear.[64] He added the casualties included elderly people as well as young children. According to the Lebanese Health Ministry, healthcare workers were also injured and it advised all healthcare workers to discard their pagers.[64][65]

Uhhh, because these were bombs - bombs that were remotely and indiscriminately detonated. Some of the people were driving, some standing next to children or on busses full of people. There are reports of children who died because they were standing next to a target at head-level with the pager.There’s no guarantee they were even being carried by “Hezbollah’s guys”.

I don’t even know why anyone would assume otherwise. This was a loosely targeted terror attack

It’s a war who tf is giving guarantees?

This is some seriously delusional thinking as to how the world works.

It’s a matter of probsbility.

Someone didn’t read the parent comment.

Israel is a terrorist organization. Radical, fundamentalist Jewish terrorism.

Why is it okay for them to bomb Lebanon as well?

Because Arab lives have no value in Israeli society.

Because Arab lives have no value in ~~Israeli~~ western society.

FTFY.

To be fair, Jewish lives also only matters to the west if they are busy murdering brown people.

It depends on the Western country - some are much worse than others when it comes to the whole practice of defining people’s worth mainly from their race.

Some Western nations (maybe most of them in Europe) do tend to see value in all human live, Arab or otherwise, but many to indeed see no value in Arab life.

If I was to point a finger at the worst in Europe I would say Britain, Hungary, Austria and Germany.

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