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Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

While it’s likely there were civilians hurt by this, the target was undeniably Hesbollah. So no, not terrorism.

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Likely because the bulk of those wounded by this attack were not Hezbollah

I don’t even know how you’d reasonably expect to only injure your targets in an attack as widespread and remote as this one. Seems blatantly indiscriminate at best.

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Likely because the bulk of those wounded by this attack were not Hezbollah

What makes you think that? These pagers were bought by Hesbollah to be used by their guys.

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These pagers were bought by Hesbollah

All we know is that a bunch of exploding pagers were distributed through Lebanon. The IDF claims they were given to Hezbollah agents, but they’ve been caught lying regularly.

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At least 12 people were killed after the attacks,[60][1][61] and more than 2,750 were wounded.[5][6] Civilians were also killed,[10][13][14] including four healthcare workers[62] and two children.[63] It is not clear if only Hezbollah members were carrying the pagers.[19] Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad said the vast majority of those being treated in emergency rooms were in civilian clothing and their Hezbollah affiliation was unclear.[64] He added the casualties included elderly people as well as young children. According to the Lebanese Health Ministry, healthcare workers were also injured and it advised all healthcare workers to discard their pagers.[64][65]

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Uhhh, because these were bombs - bombs that were remotely and indiscriminately detonated. Some of the people were driving, some standing next to children or on busses full of people. There are reports of children who died because they were standing next to a target at head-level with the pager.There’s no guarantee they were even being carried by “Hezbollah’s guys”.

I don’t even know why anyone would assume otherwise. This was a loosely targeted terror attack

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Because anyone within 5 meters of the pager also was hurt.

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Israel is a terrorist organization. Radical, fundamentalist Jewish terrorism.

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Stunning that you’re being downvoted. This was a brilliant attack on a group that actually attacks Israel actually indiscriminately on the daily.

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National order isnt based on tit for tat. If someone commits a war crime against you it doesnt mean you get to do it too.

In my opinion the time of day they chose to blow them shows they wanted as much collateral damage as they could.

What’s the advantage of making excuses for committing war crimes?

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At a certain point it stops being worth it. If sending a brainwashed 11 yo to blow up a checkpoint means you can no longer trust having any technology near you, your family and friends it might cause hesitation.

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Is there any time of day it’s not atrocious? Seems like any time would have basically equal risk for collateral casualties.

To be effective it all had to be at once. It seems that they waited until the pagers were being used to coordinate a fresh wave of rocket attacks with promises of more to come before setting them off.

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I would agree with this if they somehow only harmed Hezbollah severely. That was not the case.

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I agree, but it’s still a step up from dropping a laser guided bomb on a 10 storey apartment building because somebody in Hamas might be there.

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There you go conflating Jews and Israel. Apart from that you have an arguable point.

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