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Yes, you did. In approximately the same way that All Lives Matter was just a dog-whistley way of saying “No they don’t” to Black Lives Matter.

When someone says I suffer from THING, responding with other people suffer too as your primary message is always a dismissal of the person’s suffering.

If you want to avoid the inferred message, include an affirmative message of acknowledgement, like “nobody should suffer like that.”

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If we’re going to compare this to BLM then you said something amongst the lines of “White people have to grow up in a world where everyone hates them.” and I responded “Actually, black people have had it worse.”

If you are a cis white straight man, you are not oppressed. Stop trying to be.

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The plane rules of rhetoric do not change simply because a thing is not oppression. I’m just a rando adding comment to down vote to express what I think was done wrong.

Thosen two quotes are an excellent example of my principle, actually. The second one when given as a response to the first carries all the factionalist racism and denial of your last line.

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so I’m racist now for saying white men are not not all white men are oppressed? alright then sure bud

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I’ve had the cops called on me for watching my nephew at the park.

Go fuck yourself you fucking fuck.

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so did they arrest you?

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If you are a cis white straight man, you are not oppressed. Stop trying to be.

The entire model you are operating on has it’s roots in Marxist class conflict. Broadly the problem with that is that it was created in terms of economic class, and economic class is where it works best (or possibly at all). It can be shoehorned into other dynamics, but it only really works to the degree that that dynamic is also a proxy for economic class.

For example, it works passably well for race in the US because broadly speaking race is a decent proxy for economic class in 21st century America, though less of one than it used to be. It’s a bad fit for sex or gender precisely because those things do not function as a proxy for economic class at all.

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the hell are you on about? this discussion was about men claiming everybody hates them, even though they’re privileged on most aspects of life. why do you start rambling about the working class?

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