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Why is that my son’s fault?

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i never said it was, and I’m sure your son will be fine.

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Yeah you are. Real nice that you expect us to raise a generation of boys to have to see themselves as monsters.

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It’s like you’re here just to sully the debate with bad faith responses.

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No one is asking them to see themselves as monsters? You’re creating a problem where there isn’t one.

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No one is telling boys that they are monsters.

It is helpful that they know there are humans in the world who behave like monsters, and that some of them are men who target people who they perceive to be weaker than themselves.

So children, women, other men who are either physically smaller or in a lower position of power. That’s what they need to know. So they can protect themselves, and help stop others from becoming someone else’s monster if the opportunity arises.

Doing things like speaking out against sexual harassment, and calling out bullying behavior, this is everyone’s responsibility btw. Not just men’s and boys, but this is what needs to be taught so world can suck less.

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Yes, you did. In approximately the same way that All Lives Matter was just a dog-whistley way of saying “No they don’t” to Black Lives Matter.

When someone says I suffer from THING, responding with other people suffer too as your primary message is always a dismissal of the person’s suffering.

If you want to avoid the inferred message, include an affirmative message of acknowledgement, like “nobody should suffer like that.”

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If we’re going to compare this to BLM then you said something amongst the lines of “White people have to grow up in a world where everyone hates them.” and I responded “Actually, black people have had it worse.”

If you are a cis white straight man, you are not oppressed. Stop trying to be.

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