Kyle Rittenhouse’s sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her “brother’s unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family.”

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If the mom was capable of driving her child to another state

She didn’t do that.

It’s really sad how many people are still so completely ignorant of even the simplest facts of that case. Whatever your ideology declared was the truth, you just swallowed, facts and truth be damned.

Pitiful.

P.S. Self-defense isn’t murder.

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P.S. Self-defense isn’t murder.

What Kyle did wasn’t self defense. I don’t give a damn what the court said, he went looking for trouble with a gun in his hand.

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If a black guy knowingly strolled through a KKK meeting, without saying or doing anything other than walking, and defended himself if one of them attacked him, would you argue he gave up the right to defend himself?

That’s not how it works, goofball.

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If the guy went armed into a KKK meeting, it’s pretty obvious what he’s doing. I wouldn’t have a lot of sympathy for the KKK guys, because fuck them, but it’s pretty obvious at that point that the guy is playing vigilante.

It’s also worth noting that the first two people he shot were unarmed, and everyone who was in the vicinity thought he was an active shooter.

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It’s not bear season, and a hunter doesn’t have a hunting license. He takes his gun and drives out to bear country, and starts walking around bear dens waiting for a mother bear to attack him, then he shoots her and claims self defense.

Was he justified, or did he intentionally set up a scenario where the bear was likely to feel threatened and attack him, so he’d have an excuse to shoot her?

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He showed up to a riot with a gun, he knew what was going to happen. He put himself in a situation where deadly force would just be on be on the line of justifed.

Duty to retreat includes duty to not show up. It says so much that had the people he murdered not died and instead killed him they would be able to use the same defense he did. We are creating a last man standing justice system.

A provokes B. They fight. B is murdered. A claims self-defense

provokes B. They fight. A is murdered. B claims self-defense

What does it say that the argument works both ways? No other crime operates this way.

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It says so much that had the people he murdered not died and instead killed him they would be able to use the same defense he did.

LMAO no they wouldn’t! They chased Rittenhouse down as he fled! No jury on Earth would consider what they did self-defense, you’re completely out of your mind.

He showed up to a riot with a gun, he knew what was going to happen.

‘She was walking around with a skimpy outfit, she knew what was going to happen.’

Victim blaming. Wisconsin is an open carry state.

What does it say that the argument works both ways?

Loaded question; it DOESN’T work both ways, especially not when there is only one aggressor.

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LMAO no they wouldn’t! They chased Rittenhouse down as he fled! No jury on Earth would consider what they did self-defense, you’re completely out of your mind.

Personal attacks. And of course they chased down the guy waving a gun around.

She was walking around with a skimpy outfit, she knew what was going to happen.’

False analogy. Rape is never justified, stopping a gunman is.

Wisconsin is an open carry state.

What might technically be lawful is not always sensible.

Loaded question; it DOESN’T work both ways, especially not when there is only one aggressor.

Showing up to a riot with a gun is aggressive by its nature. Just like if I stood with a gun in front of your house at all hours.

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it should be noted that afaik, nobody has died from BLM protestors so a “fear of dying” in the encounter should indicate a deeply troubled mind. So a competent prosecuter could probably have convinced a jury that Kyle’s fears were largely irrational and could have probably stuck manslaughter charges on him.

After all, if you start marching around with a gun in front of your neighbor’s house then shoot him when he approaches you yelling to get off his sidewalk or whatever, its a bit insane, if not premeditated.

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If a black guy knowingly strolled through a KKK meeting, without saying or doing anything other than walking, and defended himself if one of them attacked him, would you argue he gave up the right to defend himself?

That’s not how it works, goofball.

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If a black guy went to a KKK meeting with a rifle and sat there provoking the KKK members, I’d argue he probably went there to stir up a fight. Not that I have any sympathy for KKK members or their actions.

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Why did you just bring in race? That was unnecessary.

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It’s amazing how you can convince some people that you aren’t responsible for your actions when you totally were.

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