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If capitalism goes away I don’t see it being followed up with a working society that would be preferable to live in. So while I don’t think its innevitable I agree in its current form it is declining. My plan to get it to happen is democracy. We have to use the leverage we have currently to maximize equal say in government and work towards it. Im not arguing against anything im arguing for the buying and selling of property as an individual to determine what property I will own for things that make sense for an individual to own (so like not education or healthcare) but we have to prevent accumulation of to much property/weatlh/power via regulation like I said before.

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If capitalism goes away I don’t see it being followed up with a working society that would be preferable to live in.

Why not? Socialism solves the contradictions within Capitalism.

So while I don’t think its innevitable I agree in its current form it is declining.

Do you have a reason to believe the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall can be eliminated entirely, not just temporarily avoided by, say, outsourcing production to countries with lower cost of living? That’s already been done.

My plan to get it to happen is democracy. We have to use the leverage we have currently to maximize equal say in government and work towards it.

That has never worked in the long run, in history. The ones with the power to influence government are the ones with the money, this problem is getting far worse. What is your actual, practicible plan?

Im not arguing against anything im arguing for the buying and selling of property as an individual to determine what property I will own for things that make sense for an individual to own (so like not education or healthcare) but we have to prevent accumulation of to much property/weatlh/power via regulation like I said before.

You can do that under systems other than Capitalism, why are you tied to it? That’s why I asked what you’re arguing against, that’s like saying you want Capitalism because you want the sun to rise.

How do you take away power from the people who make the laws? Convincing them it’s the right thing to do?

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This goes back to a small part of my statement a few replies back. “Now granted it depends on what you mean by capitalism.” If everything I wrote about personal property and profit are fine in your socialism and its a democracy then im fine with it but I would call your socialism a blend of socialism and capitalism which in my view is actually regulated capitalist system.

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What do you think Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism are?

The profit motive is bad, accumulation of Capital results in enshittification, increased exploitation, increased disparity, and Imperialism, and should be moved away from.

Socialism doesn’t mean you can’t own your house, or that you can’t express preference, and neither does Communism.

What, specifically, is the advantage of the profit motive, in your eyes?

Additionally, we have shown that we cannot simply regulate Capitalism out of its own destruction, that cannot happen structurally, so why stick with it?

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