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I can’t wait to see the leopards ate my face memes when Trump gets voted in and sends US troops in to help Israel.

Absolute nonsense

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They’re sending drones and bombs and the only casualties are mostly Palestinians families. US troops would literally be useless, or worse, a hindrance to isrealis troops, because they wouldn’t be able to randomly shoot at any neighborhood to cause maximum casualties anymore.

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you should read “Kill Anything That Moves” by Nick Turse. American troops would absolutely revel in causing maximum casualties, there would be no conflict between US troops and the IDF.

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I can’t wait to see the leopards ate my face memes when Kamala gets voted in and sends US troops in to help Israel.

Absolute nonsense.

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As opposed to now, when Biden actually US troops in to help Israel?

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citation please

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OSINT Shows U.S. Deploying More Arms and Troops to Israel, Cyprus and Jordan

Close to 80 U.S. military planes and dozens of leased civilian aircraft are hauling equipment, with massive arms airlift to Israel and Cyprus and fighter squadrons and special forces in Jordan

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2023-10-24/ty-article/u-s-deploys-more-arms-and-troops-to-israel-cyprus-and-jordan/0000018b-5cbf-d307-adbb-7dbf1aa80000

See also the fake aid bullshit that serves no one but Israeli interests:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_floating_pier

And also:

https://www.declassifieduk.org/u-s-military-is-secretly-supplying-weapons-to-israel-using-uk-base-on-cyprus

Over the past year, numerous outlets have reported that US and UK military aircraft have increasingly arrived at Britain’s RAF Akrotiri base in Cyprus last year, in an effort to reportedly assist Israeli forces in their offensive on Gaza by supplying arms and ammunition and conducting surveillance to collect and provide intelligence.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240626-turkiye-reveals-intelligence-that-cyprus-serves-as-military-base-for-israel/

Or you know, even before Oct 7th, when Israel was already and still an apartheid ethno state practicing ethnic cleansin: https://www.army.mil/article/267671/u_s_army_convoy_operation_to_israel

Sure the US troops aren’t firing the bullets. But they are supplying them, supplying targeting intelligence, etc etc. That’s pretty much just as bad.

Fuck this thing veneer of respectability.

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Republicans: “we’re going to keep giving weapons to Israel so they can get the job done.” The Nazi party is straight up telling us what they’re going to do.

Democrats: the same thing as above but couched in complacent, obscure language about “reducing casualties”.

It’s time we simply be honest about the reality and stop making this a D vs R, working class vs working class thing. At the core of the Gaza genocide, the message is essentially the same.

Kamala has stated that she won’t place a weapons embargo on Israel because they have a “right to defend themselves”. She may have a full ceasefire mindset personally, no one will ever know, but the US government collective won’t allow it. That’s just the way the war machine works. As soon as they pull the plug on funding Israel, Israel becomes an enemy they are suddenly matched with due to the mass amount of our own weapons we’ve been sending them for decades. Our government has painted itself into a corner, and a continued alliance with Israel ensures that we have a control point in the Middle East.

It should also be noted that Kamala has taken something like $200k+ worth of AIPAC money, but Walz hasn’t taken any as far as I can tell. Not personally a fan of Kamala, but I have cautious optimism with Walz.

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Thing is that trump still has close to 50% support along with the rest of the republicans and that support is not going to falter due to whats happening in israel. The rebulicans need to lose every time and go away so the dems can split into a proper left and right. They are also the best chance at election reform that might make the us system more multi party. We can only move left if the right is not a winning strategy.

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The rebulicans need to lose every time and go away so the dems can split into a proper left and right.

This is ahistorical. The republicans don’t have support because they exist, they exist because their ideas are popular. Fascism is rooted in Capitalist decay, there will not be a proper left and right ever. Not that there can be a “proper right.” They will only go away if Capitalism also goes away.

Not only that, but a Left Party cannot gain the donors necessary to maintain power within a Capitalist democracy, the ones with the money and power to influence the government will not work against their own interests.

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They have not always been like this and capitalism is simply not going to go away as folks like myself do not want to see it go. Just curbed greatly. Now granted it depends on what you mean by capitalism. But basically Im fine with a monetary system where folks can buy and sell for profit in order to determine how to allot resources of relative value (ie I will pay more for a south facing even if everything is the same or for a first floor or for a top floor or I don’t care and will grab the lowest priced one)

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We’ve pretty much been forced into a “don’t let the Nazis take control again” position.

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Yeah its gotten ridiculously bad. Honestly I wish I could like push my current brain into my teenage brain as while I was always environmentally conscious and USliberal/left. I wish I was more cognizant of just how much republicans did not care about it and were just going to get worse and worse. Now that they are just full mask off (or just not trying honestly with the whopper type lies you would have to be a fool to believe). I did not vote republican at the national level but had voted third party a few times but luckily not in one were the republican one but that was really just happenstance.

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As opposed to the Republican’s Final Solution?

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It’s only a Final Solution if it comes from the GOP, otherwise it’s “sparkling genocide.”

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If you want to fix this, your path is easy:

  • Vote Democratic in the general election because there’s never going to be a anti-genocide Republican. Ever.
  • Take a page out of the Republican playbook and campaign against AIPAC-backed Democratic candidates in primaries.
  1. Why do you think there will be anti-genocide democrats? There don’t seem to be any that approach any position of power. Why do you think genocide is supported in the first place?

  2. Why do you think “vote harder” is the answer? What financial interests would support anti-genocide? Why does AIPAC exist and why does it have power?

Complaining about candidates in the general election is too late and actually depresses Democratic turnout. You need to dot he hard work of signing up registered voters and getting good candidates at every level.

Complaints come from the very real fact that the Democrats are actively supporting genocide. The blame for depressed turnout is not on the people unhappy with genocide, but on the ones supporting genocide. Voting for genocide even harder isn’t going to work against genocide.

Democratic voters have a big problem with not showing up in off-cycle and local elections, and that abdication of responsibility is largely why the corporate wing of the party has the influence that it does. Republican voters show up to every single election, even the primary for town dog catcher.

Wrong order of operations. The corporate wing has the most power because they are the reason the Democrats have any power, by sucking up to their donors. The progressives are kept on a leash and allowed to bark so that the working class thinks they have a real voice, despite the reality that Capitalists will remain in control. This drives away voters, yes, but keeps funding up.

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2 state solution? Why do we need two Palestines?

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RAID 1 backup.

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