A lot of what needs to be done is making sure that the Harris win is large enough that you can’t easily claim that a handful of ballots should be tossed and change the outcome. That means:

  • Check your voter registration — part of the Republican strategy has long been invalidating registrations so people can’t vote
  • Volunteer — nothing in the world quite like talking to people.
  • Donate — money is used for everything from ads to voter turnout operations
  • Organize; be prepared to turn out with others in your community to actively object to any effort to ignore your votes
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166 points

Eh, there’s one additional way we can stop them. A landslide victory that puts her massively over the electoral college threshold would make a handful of compromised counties completely irrelevant.

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It will cast doubt on the election process regardless. This is very dangerous rhetoric, and unfortunately there’s about 20% of the country that wants this.

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it’s important that nobody sinks into complacency even if harris’s victory is looking like an absolute blowout towards the end. GOP absolutely WILL do literally everything they can to undermine the election. everything from 2020 plus more

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20% of the country are traitors and Trump put a good chunk of them in office.

Look at the supreme court. His appointees are going to fuck up our country for decades and there is no political will to deal with it.

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Welp maybe it’s time then to drone the shit out of them.

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40%…we have really devolved as a country.

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I do think this is the only way. It’s not 270towin this year, we need a margin.

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Most people in America can’t do anything about that though. Only the people in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, and Arizona.

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Nah. Even if you are in a safe state, vote. Even if you are in a state run by weirdos, vote. Literally vote.

It worked in 2020. trump had more votes than in 2016 and he lost by even more. January 6th had no chance of success because it was obvious who won. Taking the capitol building doesn’t mean anything.

The supreme court doesn’t even mean anything without the consent of the governed. The British won the War of 1812 and literally burned the White House to the ground. They still had to leave because the US is so big that it’s literally ungovernable without consent of the population.

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The British definitely did NOT win the war of 1812. Wtf are you talking about?

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2 points

What’s the electoral college threshold? I was wondering just recently if there’s any percentage of popular that matters more than the electoral college.

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The number to reach is 270 EC votes. However, it is very possible to reach that number while not winning the popular vote. That’s why certain states (such as PA, GA, AZ) tend to be the “battleground” states as they have enough EC votes to shift the election and usually aren’t reliably red or blue.

If I remember correctly, it’s theoretically possible to win the Presidency of the US while only winning something like 25% of the popular vote (though in practice, if you’re able to win the states to pull something like that off you’re also going to be winning the bigger states as well so your victory would look more like Reagan’s).

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Jesus Christ. If Trump won 25% of the popular vote and still became president, I hope it’d finally be enough to get the country to revolt.

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270 total electoral college votes. No, the popular does not matter, just the 50 individual states. They distribute their electoral college votes in different ways, each state gets to set its own rules.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

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That’s not in the cards given the last 4 years. Remember we only won in the wake of a mass uprising, with most people thinking they were voting to defund the police, defend Roe, free healthcare, less war, legalization of pot, freeing the concentration camps on the border, etc.

We’ll be lucky if Trump’s campaign shitting itself and Biden dropping out are enough to compensate for the last 4 years of either inaction or making things worse.

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I don’t think people voted for Joe Biden for those reasons. Except maybe defend Roe.

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I talked to a lot of people in 2020, the younger voters absolutely thought that’s what they were voting for. You underestimate how low-information the average american is. They associated free healthcare or defunding the police with democrats, and thought Biden was running on those things.

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they’re neck-and-neck in the polls; how do you think that this will happen?

is it because you’re one of those people who disregard polls?

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Polls are going to be skewed tpwards the people that answer the phone calls from random phone numbers flagged Spam or Political.

How many have called you this cycle? How many did you answer?

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i’ve seen spam calls, but i’ve never seen political before and i suspect my demographic data will guarantee that i will never get a phone call from a poll worker.

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There’s prediction markets and bookies making odds as well. People putting money on the line are probably a little more accurate than polls by themselves. Looks like people think the odds currently favor Harris, but not by a large margin. 50.9% chance for Harris and 47.1% for Trump (https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2024/08/09/harris-has-vaulted-past-trump-as-the-bookies-favorite-to-win-presidential-election/). IIRC, prediction markets significantly favored Clinton in 2016 right before the results came back though.

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HERE you go, buddy.

Everyone else, ignore polls, and just VOTE.

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i don’t doubt that polls can be wrong; i asked my question because i was confused by the other poster’s position

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I take polls under advisement, though recent years have definitely demonstrated that there are issues with them. Regardless of their veracity, though, they are subject to shifting as time goes on.

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they’re supposed to shift and that’s why it’s called polling; you’re taking action to measure that shift, if any/

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