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I’d hate to be the first human… in the original game there are dead people all over the place and the evil humans you do see are posessed.

Also… and I never see anyone else mention this… DOOM does not take place on Mars.

DOOM episode 1: Knee-Deep in the Dead takes place on Phobos. Episode 2: The Shores of Hell takes place on Deimos. Episode 3: Inferno takes place in Hell.

Doom 2: Hell on Earth takes place, as you might think, on Earth.

The whole plot of the first game is that humans are experimenting with teleporters between Phobos and Deimos, when Deimos mysteriously vanishes. To investigate, the player character is sent to Phobos, with the mission to make it through the teleporter to Deimos to see where it is. But upon arriving on Phobos, something is horribly wrong…

Also… and I never see anyone else mention this… DOOM does not take place on Mars.

But Doom (2016) does.

I feel that many gamers nowadays mean the 2016 reboot, when they talk about Doom, and not the original from 1993. We’re getting old …

Haven’t played Doom myself but I have a couple of questions. Did doom 1993 happen in 2016s universe and was doom guy canonically the first human on Mars is ether universe.

First of all, there really isn’t all that much story to the original Doom. There are a couple of paragraphs in a readme.txt file tucked away in the installation folder, and an ending screen after each episode… but that’s basically it.

As I understood it, Doom 2016 is a re-imagining of Doom, so the universes are not canonically linked. Kinda like how The Thing From Another World (1956), which takes place in Alaska, isn’t canonically linked with The Thing (1982) which takes place on Antarctica.

2016 and Eternal are still in my backlog, but I remember discussions about Eternal showing the hallucination of a bunny, and it was a hint that it was in fact the same doomguy: OG ends with the reveal that doomguy’s pet bunny on Earth was murdered and beheaded during the invasion by the demons (that ending screen with a bunny’s head on a spike). It’s the whole reason doomguy is mad at the demons, and he’s still pissed in 2016 and Eternal.

It might be mostly player deduction and there’s no official lore about it, but the bunny is definitely a hint or at least an easter egg. The wiki says the pet bunny was called Daisy.

Definite “No” to the second. Doom (2016) definitely takes place in a universe where the Doom Marine has been around the block a few times, but I’m not sure how clear it is that they’re in the exact same universe.

I don’t know if the '93 version of Doom will do it, but it probably will. I installed Dark Forces on a machine several years ago, and was happily playing for about 20-30 minutes when I suddenly got motion sickness. Those older games run at a lower fps, and apparently my eyes really don’t like that.

The original DOS version of Doom runs at 35fps, exactly half of the 70Hz refresh rate of 320x200 VGA mode. I thought it felt really smooth back in the day, but it does feel weird and stuttery on modern systems when played through Dosbox. I get used to it after a bit, but still.

Fortunately as Doom is open source, there are many enhanced Doom ports that lift this 35fps limit and allow it to run on modern machines without emulation. I usually play in GZDoom which can run at the max refresh rate of my monitor (144Hz), so it feels silky smooth.

Doom =/= Doom (2016) or Doom 4

If you’re talking about Doom, it’s the original Doom game (not to be confused with Ultimate Doom)

Doom (2016)

If you’re talking about Doom, it’s the original Doom game

Sorry but you’re not the arbiter of worldwide speech, so you don’t get to decide that. The name of the 2016 game is just Doom. If there’s a chance of confusion you can add (2016) for clarity, as I did, but it really has the same title as the original Doom game and there’s nothing wrong with just calling it Doom. Which it is.

See:

It’s like Scarface and Scarface, or Cape Fear and Cape Fear, or Dune and Dune, or … you get the point.

For the vast, vast majority of Doom (2016) players who have never played Doom (1993), they would probably completely disagree.

I think it makes more sense to refer to the more relevant, popular, and well-known game as Doom and just refer to the other as “the original Doom” or Doom (1993). Especially since that’s what the store page does, as the other person made clear on the 2016 end, and this store page should make clear on the 1993 end.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM_1993/

The music can be heard all the way from Mars’ moons.

Right, forgot about the moons. I managed to confuse new and original doom in my mind. IIRC the humans didn’t even invent the teleporters. They were already there.

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