384 points

As relevant now as it was 10 years ago

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Oh so this is not a photoediting class I thought. So I launched Krita. And everyone laughed when they realized Photoshop was the wrong tool for the job.

We had icecream.

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4 points

I’ve seen this exact image in a thread before and the circlejerk assured everyone this didn’t happen

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4 points

GIMP… GIMP never changes…

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168 points

It’s among the next 3 things on the list. You can expect it in gimp 3.1.0 in 2056

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77 points

400 years from now, we will have interstellar ships but we still won’t have a shape tool for GIMP :(

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60 points

“Can you isolate the alien from the background?”

“No”

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110 points

Non-destructive editing was way, way more important. Shapes can be done differently anyway.

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81 points

Typical “we know this feature is asked many times, but it not on our priority/ it is not planned”

I’m not criticizing open source itself, but I think this highlights a common issue in open source software, one that distinguishes widely adopted projects like Blender from others. Successful open source software tends to reach users beyond just those within the open source movement.

I know some might disagree, saying that these developers work for free, but that’s not the point here. Software is created for users, and if a developer declines to implement a feature requested by the user base, many will simply return to proprietary alternatives—like Adobe Photoshop or Photo Pea, in this case. This leaves these open source projects feeling like “second-class citizens” because they lack the specific features users need.

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33 points

Agree. Similar example is Matrix Element multi-account request. It’s the most requested but we still don’t know it’s roadmap.

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That one is infuriating. Having a good client is so key to adoption… And Element is still really, really bad. Yes, it has almost all the features, but refusing multi-account is so so so annoying, and being Electron garbage is horrible. They have so much funding it’s ridiculous.

XMPP is another case where adoption has mostly failed exactly because there are no “flagship” clients that do it all.

That’s why DeltaChat looks so good. The official clients work great everywhere, and they can do it all!

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Tbh on pc, I can have multiple accounts with different workspaces but the main problem is on mobile. It’s been 6 years and their progress isn’t even transparent. They keep moving the issue tracker and I searched so much but couldn’t find their issue tracker. The fact that this was the most requested and now imagine the condition of slightly less popular requests.

Really feel like some of these bigger projects should hire a competent leadership.

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don’t even dream about it. I remember reading on their issue tracker one if them saying that such a feature needs to be accounted for from the beginning of planning an app. if you think about it, it makes sense. but I doubt anything has been done about it

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Like others have said, it’s on the roadmap. They just need (or want) to add vector layers first. So progress is being made.

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Tbf this is not exclusive to open source software. iOS famously didn’t have “copy and paste” until version 3, for instance. The zealots were the ones that insisted that it was unnecessary until Apple rolled it out.

Plex constantly has requests for obvious features that are stated to not be on their roadmap.

Yes it is frustrating, but it isn’t exclusive to open source development.

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5 points

Lmfao unlocked a memory with this one, remember when Apple tried to force people to pay for that update? You could easily find the package and manually install it instead, but still lmfao.

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1 point

I think the difference is that with open source you won’t lose money if the users leave. If you have creating a software that is not selling because it is missing a feature, you are incentivised to implement it.

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blender is good because they changed course and made a more industry standard ui, as requested by its users.

gimp devs wanna do things their own way period. 3.0 is a step in the right direction, coming a decade too late.

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6 points

a step in the right direction

With the confirmation buttons in dialogs moved into the title bar?

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9 points

thats how gtk3 apps are supposed to work.

gtk4 seem to have done away with most uses of it, strap in because thats another decade away.

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This is literally on the road map for GIMP, right up top. (Status: no just means it hasn’t been started yet and isn’t planned for 3.2, not that it isn’t planned) https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/

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The reason shape tools don’t exist yet is because they would require the implementation of non-destructive vector layers, and a fundamental overhaul of the vector back-end. More: https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/#development-focus

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Very true. You can find many cases of that though. Just the other day I was trying to get crypto quotes and accounting inside Gnucash, which has been supported by the backend API’s since forever ago, but the interface essentially doesn’t allow for it because the developers don’t consider crypto as currency, and don’t want to support custom currencies or even just using the existing data source API for anything but stocks, derivatives and fiat currencies.

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The meme is ironic lol. Why would anybody want a shape tool in gimp? Nobody is seriously asking for it. This is a joke that originated with that old greentext about anon getting beat up in the school parking lot for not being able to draw a circle in gimp

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7 points

Every now and then, I just want a circle to start off with. A circle will capture 97% of the area I need before I grind down with the lasso. Can I draw a circle freehand? No, that shit is more like an oval or an abomination against God.

Is it enough to get me to start paying for Photoshop? No. I’ve even got it installed on my work computers that have Photoshop in case of licensing issues (it’s happened more than once). But I am a user and I have requested it unironically in the past.

So, beat me up after class but the sample size is at least one.

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If you unironically need it, than what’s stopping you from just using it…? It’s right there, just search for “shape” in the command pallete

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54 points

It’s so tiring…

Use the circle selection tool, mark an area, fill it with a solid colour/gradient/texture or morph it further or stroke the path to create a hollow circle

So many options that amount to more than just a shape tool.

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Unintuitive.

I heard of photoshop when I was 13 and I installed a pirated version, just started clicking around and I always found what I wanted in a minute.

10 Years later, I switch 100% to Linux, I have to do some light design work, I open gimp - I CLICK AROUND FOR HALF AN HOUR FOR SOMETHING SIMPLE - can’t find it to save my life. Give up and google it, it gives me a reply like yours “just go to a completely unrelated menu to conjure a hack out of your ass that barely resembles what you originally intended to do”.

Fuck that UX man. I am so glad pirated photoshop works well in wine nowadays and I have a VM with a legit Adobe suite if I ever need to actually whip up my license for some reason (fuck adobe as well btw.)

I pray that one day there is a real competitor that works natively on Linux. I pay, take my hard earned money every month, whatever it takes, just make it intuitive and reach near feature parity with PS.

If anybody is still reading, sorry for venting, the GIMPs always trigger me, have a nice day.

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34 points

Try krita it has such things :D

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7 points

yeah. actualy is there anything in gimp you can’t do in krita?

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4 points

Have you tried photopea?

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6 points

Yeah, but it runs in a browser, chokes on larger projects and Ivan is an asshole.

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-11 points

If you want something intuitive, use Paint or pen and paper.

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17 points

that’s dumb. you should just draw on the wall of the cave

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So many options that amount to more than just a shape tool.

If I wanted to learn some arcane bullshit to draw a circle Id just learn C++.

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29 points

Sorry best I can do is a programmable turtle that moves around as a pen.

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Aww, the poor turtle is trying their very best.

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Same energy as “so tired of idiots who want right click>new file on gnome, are you too stupid to open the terminal, cd 20 times and use the shittiest text editor ever to create a new file and save it and then open nautilus and navigate to the same directory, or something?”

Comparable to driving from washington to argentina instead of taking a plane (for those who don’t know, there are no roads connecting north to south america). This is literally the attitude why there will never be year of the linux.

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Spoiler: most people don’t care about “year of the linux desktop”. Linux works for me and those losers on windows be damned. Why should we cater to them? Especially since they won’t put any effort into learning linux.

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More users = more support for programs and hardware on linux, more open source and freedom policies rather than maximising shareholder value. Less and less troubleshooting and figuring out why your shit you really need to work doesn’t work.

It benefits everyone, even the people who are in denial about good ux.

I mean id you think navigating through folders in terminal and using other shitty tools to create a template file is mentally stimulating or difficult task and teaches anything about linux other than that linux is unfinished and has massive oversights, you are not as clever as you think you are.

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I wouldn’t have switched personally if Linux ui was still shit. I put the effort into learning because the initial experience was good enough to warrent delving deeper into it.

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Wouldn’t that simply create a bitmap circle, though? The advantage of shapes in Photoshop is that they are vectors.

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Select circle -> save selection as path. There’s your vector. I’d, however, use some vector app for vector graphics, independent of the OS I’m using.

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Well it’s still a good idea to have shapes saved as vectors in a bitmap program. So resizing doesn’t affect the shape.

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That’s several more steps than it ought to take. Including the step of having to look this up, because you’d never intuitively figure this out on your own.

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