Proton Mail goes AI, security-focused userbase goes ‘what on earth’

we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

tbf it’s only in the business plans and some of the legacy lifer type plans, but yeah, wildin

just a little violation of my trust for the company I pay for privacy and encryption services. as a treat.

Once they activate the acausality module, you can write those responses before they even send the initial email!

Most email providers already have this feature it’s called automatic out-of-office reply.

The good news is I barely use Protonmail (or email at all, for that matter).

The bad news is I have a fucking Proton account. Fuck.

they’re still least worst, but “oh the fuck no” is the correct reaction

It should be an option that is turned off

it was acausally enabled before you clicked on it, for your comfort and convenience, like the new ad tracker built into Firefox 128

alternatively, if the only version of this that doesn’t break Proton’s e2e security model is the local-only version, maybe don’t ship the cloud hosted version of the feature under any circumstances

I’d still hate the feature because the LLM model’s derived from plagiarized work and the labor of exploited workers from the global south, but this didn’t have to be a fucking privacy catastrophe

Well, I was contemplating Protonmail…

I’m in the process of degoogling and dewindowing. I’ll be dammed if I’m going towards ANYthing even related to"artificial intelligence" if I can help it.

Feckin bullshit.

I’m pretty happy with Tutanota all things considered. There are some tradeoffs back and forth between the two, but I think it’s neat they run on renewable energy. And they’re very focussed on being open source which I also appreciate.

Maybe an option worth looking into. They’re also encrypted (though I wish either them or proton had an option not to be) and have a free tier)

Hope you find what you’re looking for!

I’ve been using Mailbox.org. I tried Tutanota but the domain name was just awful.

I recommend you get your own domain, then you can’t ever lose your email.

Well it is just tuta now so there is that

It’s not even in the consumer version. Also it’s a optional local LLM running in your browser for basic stuff

though to be honest, the fact that you think this is local-only and only affects business accounts perfectly demonstrates how fucking dangerous Proton’s marketing and design around this feature is

I’ll mention I went to Fastmail (mainly because they’re an Aus company as well as the privacy stuff), so far so good.

fastmail is viciously anti union however https://union.place/@fastmailunited/112672408714595554

ah fuck I wasn’t aware of this, thanks for mentioning

off the list they go

Yeah I saw that, pretty shitty. I also didn’t even realise they had a US division, given how they tout themselves as an Australian company.

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