we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

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Well, I was contemplating Protonmail…

I’m in the process of degoogling and dewindowing. I’ll be dammed if I’m going towards ANYthing even related to"artificial intelligence" if I can help it.

Feckin bullshit.

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I’m pretty happy with Tutanota all things considered. There are some tradeoffs back and forth between the two, but I think it’s neat they run on renewable energy. And they’re very focussed on being open source which I also appreciate.

Maybe an option worth looking into. They’re also encrypted (though I wish either them or proton had an option not to be) and have a free tier)

Hope you find what you’re looking for!

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8 points

I’ve been using Mailbox.org. I tried Tutanota but the domain name was just awful.

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10 points

I recommend you get your own domain, then you can’t ever lose your email.

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5 points

Well it is just tuta now so there is that

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6 points

Thanks

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6 points

I’ll mention I went to Fastmail (mainly because they’re an Aus company as well as the privacy stuff), so far so good.

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fastmail is viciously anti union however https://union.place/@fastmailunited/112672408714595554

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ah fuck I wasn’t aware of this, thanks for mentioning

off the list they go

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Yeah I saw that, pretty shitty. I also didn’t even realise they had a US division, given how they tout themselves as an Australian company.

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It’s not even in the consumer version. Also it’s a optional local LLM running in your browser for basic stuff

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though to be honest, the fact that you think this is local-only and only affects business accounts perfectly demonstrates how fucking dangerous Proton’s marketing and design around this feature is

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