98 points

Yes America will, he just hasn’t been told how the US economy would collapse without Taiwanese semiconductors yet. Taiwan will not let China take the fabs intact, it’s their insurance forcing the west to help them.

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He’s perfectly okay collapsing the economy as long as he and a few rich friends make it out with more in the short term.

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20 points

Just depends on if Taiwan or China gives him the bigger kickback.

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Kickback sound nefarious and non-official. Call it a reward for official services. That’d make it completely legal per the SCOTUS ruling

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Nah, Russia is Trump’s true love. He doesn’t care if China benefits, as long as it weakens the US, because that is what benefits Russia.

He doesn’t need to make a decision or get a kickback. Russia has already provided for his every need; a massive publicity campaign that is ongoing, unlimited money in the form of crooked bank lending and sweetheart real estate deals. He gets Russian intelligence on whatever might threaten him or enrich him.

He saw the Russian oligarchy in which a handful of cutthroat dogs control everything and can do whatever they want, and fell in love.

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This is exactly what “America should not defend other countries” dumbos don’t understand.

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Trump is a literal traitor, if it destroys the US then it’s a good thing to him.

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89 points

The United States will lose its super power status with Donald Trump as president

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and it will be transferred to China with Russia as their lapdog. A new age of authoritarianism which will be extremely costly and deadly to quell ala wwii

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13 points

I don’t even know who would be able to fight the trio from hell. At that point it’s only a matter of time before the whole planet is fascist.

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8 points

France, UK, Germany, Italy, Poland, Sweden, Finland, and presumably quite a few American mercenaries that don’t want to watch the global society fall into corruption.

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Not only that, I guarantee they will push us out of being the world’s reserve currency.

Once that happens, we no longer can enforce our will around the globe via soft power (threat of tariffs, sanctions, ect.). Goodbye to normal prices of any kind and hello hyperinflation.

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That would explain his sudden love for crypto after bashing Bitcoin during his first term.

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Goodbye to normal prices of any kind

Toooo late

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4 points

You think 9% inflation is bad?

My sweet summer child wait until it hits 20, 30, 120%.

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If you just read Promise #3 in the Forward of the Project 2025 document, I believe that’s the point.

Any time globalization is mentioned, it’s in a negative way. They call the global US treaties and economic policy a woke, progressive failure. They blame much of America’s problems on our current path of global leadership.

They have to pull it all in and weed out what they dont like before they try to expand in a way that fits their image. (Oil and manufacturing) It’s how governments like this function.

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Which is hilarious, if the dollar stops being the reserve currency for oil America’s massive debt mountain will be called in and the economy will collapse.

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6 points

Yeah…alot of them don’t think it through. What was the Pol Pot guy in Cambodia… He kills everyone that’s not a farmer, then he needs someone to fix the broken radio…

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8 points

it will effectively hand trillions of dollars of business investments directly to china.

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7 points

Pretty much Brexit on a global scale.

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It needs to, the US needs to mind it’s own business

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The US needs to act like a global citizen, not the global police.

Saying that they have been a significant stabilizing pwer post ww2, and the changing world order would create significant upset.

(Hate the term world order as it makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist - I mean the actual international relations definition)

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Well for now the US remains the only global super power.

People say China is a superpower now, and maybe they will be, and perhaps they edge America out in certain, specific economic or military measures, but they don’t have the high power, strategic alliances that America has.

NATO, Five Eyes, NORAD, ANZUS, US France, US Japan, South Pacific Treaty, US Canada (most? of the arctic), US Brazil, US Australia. UK. South Korea. Mexico.

Even in Africa, we have a string of alliances right through the middle (the part that isn’t just desert), and still lesser, but still significant alliances in south and north Africa. Check the receipts on mutual defense agreements, cooperation agreements, joint military exercises, to say nothing of the many energy, space, and naval alliances, strategic military bases and territory; Alaska and Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Gaum, Samoa.

Wow, China has more people; their GDP should correlate but it doesn’t. Also, seems like having more people may be a liability. One thing they definitely have going for them is public infrastructure, still with massive wealth and income inequality.

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Show them how, we’re waiting.

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77 points

Trump is an idiot and a coward. He doesn’t give a shit about global security, he doesn’t get that abandoning allies only makes us look weak and unreliable, and he has no principles which could compel him to take a stand. He will decide things based on his own emotions and ego, doing whatever he thinks makes him look good. And his idea of looking good is less about being a leader or statesman and more about pretending to be a tough guy that gets respect by rewarding friends and punishing enemies.

Remember, this is the guy who, when faced with a choice between showing leadership in the face of a pandemic or downplaying the disease so that it wouldn’t be associated with him, went with downplaying the disease. If he can’t be trusted to make the right choice in a conflict between a virus and humanity, why would we ever expect him to make the tough call to defend an ally in a difficult conflict.

Honestly, I think if Trump had been president in 1941, he would have downplayed the significance of Pearl Harbor and would have used it as an excuse to stop aid to our allies. But I’m sure he’d still be all for internment, it’s very much his style.

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pretending to be a tough guy that gets respect by rewarding friends and punishing enemies.

Or vice-versa, when it comes to the US’ relationship with the countries themselves (as opposed to his personal fawning sycophancy towards dictators).

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Right, it’s not about whether they are America’s friend or foe, it’s only about their relationship with Trump. And unfortunately, Trump seems to be better at relating to dictators.

And it probably doesn’t help that democratically elected leaders from countries that have longstanding relationships with the US tend to expect America to live up to it’s obligations. They aren’t coming in and kissing the ring in exchange for favors, they’re putting the burden on the president to, you know, do his fucking job. “What’s that, Ukraine wants the defense funding that congress allocated for them? Well what will they do for me?”

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And unfortunately, Trump seems to be better at relating to dictators.

I know you’re not intentionally mincing words, but I prefer to be as explicit about it as possible: Trump idolizes dictators and wants to be just like them. He is a fanboi of Putin, Xi, et al.

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Russia, China - hell, North Korea - take whatcha want.

No wonder the idiot commies are for him.

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They are not really commies. But I’d guess you know that.

Edit: In case it’s not clear, I strenuously object to the use of “commie” as a pejorative, particularly when it makes no sense whatsoever.

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Then what are they?

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Totalitarian. The specific flavor is Juche. It started as an ostensible offshoot of Marxist-Leninist ideology, and then became whatever the ruling family wanted it to become as time went on. By now, its essentially just a cult of personality/deification ideology around Kim jong un.

North Korea is absolutely not socialist or communist in any meaningful sense.

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Auth left, where the state plays the part as the capitalist and it’s citizens are human resources to be managed.

Hasn’t Auth left and Auth right had enough time leading the world? (All of human history)

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I honestly don’t know what they are. I doubt they do.

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I think they are a new definition to be honest. Is authoritarian one?

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Then why would you say “idiot commies”?

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Have you ever tried asking?

The term you’re looking for is Marxist-Leninist. It is by far the largest communist ideology in the world.

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trump would never stand up for the smallest in a fight. That is cowardice.

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