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“She said to quit my whining cause it’s bringing her down”

— Actual story of the Greenday song

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It all keeps adding up. I think I’m cracking up.

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Am I just paranoid, or am I just stoned?

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Grasping to control, so you better hold on

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I went to a shrink, to analyze my dreams; he said it’s lack of sex that’s bringing me down.

I went to a whore, she said my life’s a bore; to quit my whining cuz it’s brining her down.

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The shrink is a she, the whore uses both he and she pronouns in the song. The pronouns are even bolded in the lyrics sheet and quite noticable in the song.

Singer is bisexual and while he was supportive of generally challenging gender norms, sometimes his trans comments were what would be considered transphobic nowadays. See:

https://genius.com/Green-day-android-lyrics

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh0Mozl_ZTo

And

https://genius.com/Green-day-king-for-a-day-lyrics

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I always thought the sung lyrics were “I went to a whore who said my life’s a bore”

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Interesting, I never pictured the character in Android as a trans person, honestly what I had in mind was more of a mentally unwell, possibly unhoused, person that perhaps had no other choice but to wear woman’s shies. Given, all of that in today’s lens is very problematic, but the song is 33 years old after all and I didn’t really have an understanding of trans people when I first heard it more than 20 years ago. Though I did pretty clearly understand the meaning of the line in basketcase.

Idk, maybe it’s because I grew up with them and Billie Joe was a queer idol for me growing up, but king for a day never struck me as demeaning towards people who cross dress or people who are trans either. Just a (probably autobiographical) song about breaking gender norms.

I am almost as old as Android and probably my views are getting outdated so feel free to ignore my ramblings. Just interesting to see how the world has changed even from when I was little confused kid. (Now I’m a big confused kid)

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Yeah, I read that as the homeless person is wearing woman’s shoes and is crazy, not that he’s being judged as crazy for wearing woman’s shoes. Nothing in android’s lyrics struck me as transphobic.

In king for a day I see homophobia in general represented by the dad character and the implication that the “guys” will do something bad - but that’s the point, isn’t it? To condemn the homophobia?

Idk, I think that when it comes to interpretation there is no winning when up against someone with an agenda. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I honestly think it’s inclusive language for the time. I just don’t think you’d let far with using it nowadays.

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It could also be that the prostitute is male and telling the singer to quit whining because their life is so boring that it’s probably even bringing down their therapist.

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Yeah some people think it’s an unmentioned girlfriend too, but it doesn’t really fit the lyric structure. It’s jarring enough that it has to be telling you some sort of taboo subtext.

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As a kid who had no understanding or awareness of anything that challenged gender norms, I was confused about the mixed pronouns. Then I forgot about that song. Some twenty years later, this mystery was addressed. Thank you for the information.

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5 points

Yeah I was in elementary school when dookie came out so I can’t say I was particularly enlightened either, but it stuck with me.

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I’ve mentioned this elsewhere, but chatgpt makes a pretty good therapist. It’s literally incapable of judging you.

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2 points

stop mentioning this anywhere. to anybody.

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0 points

No.

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37 points

Sounds like a really bad therapist, and a stripper in the wrong career.

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this was my take as well.

a therapist who’s disengaged, or has no training beyond basic person-centred therapy skills

a stripper who could be doing other things if they wanted (not that they should or need to)

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