Summary
Conservative lawmakers and activists are pushing to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the 2015 Supreme Court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage. Liberty Counsel’s Mat Staver declared, “It’s just a matter of when.”
Some legislators, like Oklahoma Senator David Bullard, are introducing bills to challenge the ruling, while Justices Thomas and Alito have signaled interest in reconsidering it.
Though most Americans support same-sex marriage, the court’s conservative shift is concerning.
The 2022 Respect for Marriage Act ensures federal recognition but does not prevent states from restricting same-sex marriage if Obergefell is overturned.
dude just look at the taliban and know that’s where we’re headed. except jesus flavored. divorce is irrelevant if all you have to do is accuse your wife of something and…“redeem your family’s honor”
and if the (forced into marriage) wife wants a divorce? “LOL shut your filthy whore mouth and get back in the kitchen”
except jesus flavored
There is no trace of Jesus Christ flavoring in whatever the fuck those “christians” are practicing. Even Satan is into punishing the wicked. These motherfuckers reward evil.
and if the (forced into marriage) wife wants a divorce
Well, you have to understand, she’s much, much, younger than he is, nearly a child, she can’t possibly know what she really wants. She’s 17, he’s 50, just the arrangement Jesus approves of, ask any Republican geezer and he’ll tell you.
Yep, that’s the goal. Only the wealthy, who are otherwise protected from the arm of the law, will be the only ones who are not just chattel for the workhouses.
They need more workers? Impregnate more women via IVF, with the “economic exclusion” that will be crafted into law, that only applies to the workplace. Why worry about divorce when your master is choosing for you? Too many workers to feed? UID, ordered by your master.
They control everything for the working class, even the reproductive cycle. Even love needs to be removed from the equation. 1984 laid out the “why” for it all.
Adoption, in many cases, contributes to a situation where pregnant people are coerced into giving up their child. It’s a problem most people don’t want to hear about, though, like most problems primarily faced by women.
Not all cases though. So project 2025 is going to be pretty damaging even in this area.
TBH I just know about this because of people I know who’ve given up children for adoption. Mirah Ruben’s The Stork Market looks like it covers a lot of what they talk about basically, but I haven’t read it.
There are a lot of things that I was raised to believe in a liberal society, like police being good for everyone, America being the good guys, communism being bad; and of course later I learned that it was not as it had seemed. For me, learning about the harm done by the international adoption industry was also one of those eye-opening moments. Fundamentally, it’s an industry with little oversight and which has an incentive to acquire babies from people in a rough spot in life, because the middleman makes a profit; that this incentive exists should give you pause, if nothing else.
How has this realistically altered my worldview? I now think adoption ought to be considered a duty or perhaps a privilege, but not a right. In other words, nobody should have the absolute right to have children just because they can’t conceive them in the usual way. I also think that adopted children should always have the right to know who their birthparents are and to reach out to them or their next of kin. I also think there shouldn’t be an international adoption industry, or at least it should have vastly more oversight. For what it’s worth, this is quite a centrist position compared to the more radical viewpoints of the people I know who have given up children. (They tend to think adoption is wrong in all cases – though that’s generally for a certain definition of “adoption” which basically means “erasure of the birthparents.”)
Anyway, I don’t particularly desire to argue about this back and forth, so I won’t. Maybe you think the people I know are naïve for being salty about choices they made as teenagers that they regret now. That’s what I thought at first. If you call bullshit, ok, but I hope that next time you hear about this issue from someone else you’ll be inclined to give them a listen at least.
(Is it homophobic to say that you don’t have a right to raise children if you can’t conceive them? Perhaps. If it means anything, I’m gay myself; but I also don’t have any interest in children, so that doesn’t really matter either way.) Edit: tree_frog has convinced me that I shouldn’t have mentioned that this wasn’t about adoption in same-sex marriage specifically, since apparently that just makes it sound like I’m secretly homophobic, and also small-minded apparently, so please ignore that I guess.
My supervisor is a hardcore trumper - and also a lesbian who proudly talks about her wife. Nothing that is happening now is good, but it will at least be a little amusing to hear her “but the leopards weren’t supposed to eat my face!” lamentations.
Any LGBTQ person that voted for Trump deserves what they get. I have no sympathy for a person that can’t do the most basic google search and has no interest in bettering the world for other people.
The only reason most people voted for Trump was Money or Immigrants. Two of the most selfish reasons.
That’s a weird thing I’ve seen in my life. Of the 5 most loud, vocal Trump supporters I know, 3 are lesbians. It’s weird.
The leader of Germany’s Neo Nazi Party is a woman dating an immigrant woman. I don’t fuckin get it
Maybe what they all have in common is wanting to be the lone exception to all the suffering others of their kind will go through. Some sick joy found in being a lone survivor.
Yeah… she’s fucked. I wouldn’t be surprised if they anull every non-hetero marriage. And sadly, all the faces eaten by leopards will be of little consolation to those hurt by this.
Meanwhile a ton of conservatives are closeted gays
I once heard an old trans prostitute talking about her time in the 80s. As her friends and chosen family were dying en masse, she had a client who was an anti gay politician. She said how she once asked him why he was doing such things if he was the sort of person who’d seek out a trans sex worker in the 1980s and become her regular, and his response was that if he didn’t do it he’d lose his election and someone else would.
At the same time you had in the 50s Mccarthy getting teased in the senate for being gay while running an anti gay purge of the government.
Idk. I’ve long held that the reason that so many conversion camp operators wind up coming out eventually is that we wind up drawn to doing the dirty work in service of ideologies opposed to us for a variety of reasons such as self hate, the need to prove we aren’t like them, etc.
Though most Americans support same-sex marriage, the court’s conservative shift is concerning.
This is all anyone needs to understand on the subject. They don’t give a shit about what the majority wants anymore- as they’re making it known far-and-wide that they are no longer employed by us. They’re employed by themselves.
They have a fairly large group that isn’t going to change their votes either way. Then, they have another group that actually might stay home, but things like this motivates them. They don’t have to care about the parts of their base that aren’t going to change their mind.
christian terrorists strike again
