Yeah, well, mission failed then.
Exactly. If it was possible to travel from the future, we would never see a failed attempt since they would try again. Unless it was intended to be a failed attempt. :)
Maybe another time traveller disturbed the shooter by pushing him because what would have happened if Trump was shot dead would have been truly apocalyptic in the longer run. Maybe we just witnessed the n-th time loop without remembering the other ones and this is the first one where the bullet only grazes Trump’s ear instead of blowing his brains out so now life on Earth as we know it can continue, and we can post about it on Lemmy.
Yeah well nice job fucking that one up, John Titor.
I just finished this anime and get this reference. I love being in on da me mes
The anime you saw (which I was unfamiliar with) was based on a “real” thing- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor
Woah thanks for letting me know! If you like anime steins gate is worth a watch.
It was one of the guys from X-COM. He had a 98% percent hit chance but still missed somehow.
After seen the photo.of his bloody face I have to say, as a non american, i’m sorry for you guys and for ukrane (and the rest of the world of course, since this time things will be MUCH worst). I hope you can recover but idk if you have mich time. I don’t think this wako can loose anymore
Yeah, as an American all I could think was this clinched the campaign for him.
He can’t handle security for something like a small concert? He can’t handle security for the nation. Do people really think Obama wasn’t under constant threat? Please.
Now we need to make sure one idiots attempt to stop him from being president, doesn’t derail the rest of our determination to stop him from being president the democratic way.
I’m sure we can do it, but all the non MAGAts need to work together to ensure it.
As a Canadian I’m sorry for the Americans but I’m also fucking terrified for what this means for us. We’re already seeing it bleed (pun intended) into our borders and I don’t think I could handle if our politics went further that way. This is gonna affect a whole lot more than Americans.
Trump was shot at at a rally. Grazed his ear, his security escorted him off stage after a minute or so. There’s a photo of him with a bloody ear, surrounded by his bodyguards, fist raised, with the flag in the background. Crazy good photo, arguably historic already.
This was my mostly comical thought. You know how people always say they’d go back and off Hitler? But somehow it never happened so either time travel doesn’t exist, or they just always fail. We’re just getting to see that in real time.
(That said, this fucker definitely changed the future so it’s probably not that.)
In my view, it would be naive to assume that killing Hitler before he became Chancellor would guarantee the prevention of the atrocities that followed, and it might even pose the risk of something worse happening. Events don’t occur in a vacuum. It’s similar to how dropping nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were horrific events in themselves, but who’s to say those events aren’t the reason nukes have never been used in warfare since? Preventing those bombings might have saved the people in those cities, but it also might have significantly lowered the bar for using nukes, increasing the chance of a true nuclear holocaust during the Cold War, for example.
So maybe time travel is possible, and someone did try to change history by killing Hitler, but then realized the outcome was even worse. Now, they needed an additional assassin to deal with the first one.
There’s an interesting theory that Hitler was put in place by time travelers as the last-bad option that wouldn’t destroy the timeline.
Hitler (and Trump) made a number of blundering errors that any idiot should’ve/known better than to make. Had a competent, or even a supervillain-type been in charge, things could’ve turned out even worse than they did. You don’t have to look far- some of these villains attach themselves to those in power. Himmler and Heydrich would’ve been far worse for the world, but were somewhat limited by not being the ones directly in power.
My favourite theory of time travel is that in the vast majority of timelines, travelling back in time guarantees that events will unfold as they always will, as given an infinite number of timelines in entropy there will be at least one timeline that forms a loop, and from that point effectively every timeline follows that loop. It may even be a multi-step loop, but it’s still a loop and the time travel causes the events that leads to the time travel.
For those who want to read about it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle
Time travel is possible. Changing the future however, isn’t.
It has to do with wave function collapse. The cat is both alive and dead until its observed, at which point the wave function collapses to reveal which it is.
So let’s say you go back in time and successfully kill Hitler. Well you’re now observing that outcome from a tangent timeline. In our timeline, that wavefront has already collapsed. There’s no takesies backsies. Its immutable.
If you can go back and try again, your just creating new wave funtion collapses, not changing the ones that already occurred.
Its like re-rolling a dice because you didn’t like the outcome. You can re-roll as much as you want, it doesn’t erase that first roll; its still there, imprinted on the quantum foam of the multi verse.
Schrödinger was scared of his own results, that’s what his cat is for. Not to show some profound effect about wave function collapse, but to show how the wave function must collapse (despite his calculations showing otherwise) because if the wave function doesn’t collapse, the cat is simultaneously alive and dead, which is preposterous.
However, we now know quantum entanglement to be a real thing; so, as bizzare as it sounds, the cat is both alive and dead, always. The number of timelines containing an alive cat diminish over time until eventually, dead cat is the only possible outcome. This is strong evidence for a multiverse existence. When you open the box you simply discover which universe you’re in.