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Don’t make the same mistake as our generation and fall for TikTok, Instagram and that shit.

Almost everything is better without it, from concerts to weekend trips to relationships.

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It’s super sad to see. We used to complain about kids being fed digital “contents” as pacifiers, but now I constantly see older people super fixated with their phone watching tiktok videos. 😔

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Computers and their interfaces? Way beyond the familiarity of older folks. TikTok? That’s just rapid-fire TV. That’s channel surfing where every flip is a reward. That’s gambling and standup combined.

It’s kind of insidious.

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Based on your comment I tried to get Dalle to generate a combination video slots and social media game.

Limited success. Album shows images generated during the process:

https://imgur.com/a/HAp03KZ

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13 points

I think that advice is already coming too late

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Are you kidding? The 40-50 generation invented falling for stupidity of social media. Talk to 60-70 gen instead.

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2 points

True, I hoped the next generation wouldn’t make the same mistake…

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6 points

Con… certs… Yes i remember !

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Con-air and Certs mints, I remember!

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3 points

Cherry certs were the best!!

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5 points

Concerts. Is that some kind of offline activity from the past?

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1 point

Okay, try getting past a first date with someone who asks for your “insta”.

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Maybe it’s the wrong person if they can’t be with someone who doesn’t use Instagram ;)

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3 points

I prefer InstaGran anyway

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There’s no shame in changing your mind, there is no shame in needing help, there is no shame in self improvement, try to love yourself as a whole and work towards changing the things you don’t love.

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That changing your mind is so key. Often times people attach personal value to opinions as though they’re related.

The ego gets involved when it should fuck right off.

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Sometimes people around them don’t make it any easier. If people around a person immediately show contempt to a person who admits they were wrong, it enforces a microculture where change is going to be harder and more painful than necessary.

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This is a real problem with changing your mind.

I can’t believe how many times I’ve been told I’ve changed when I no longer found something funny or said something that I wouldn’t have in my teen years.

One of the longest-running opinions of mine that hasn’t been disproved yet is that many people just don’t really mature or age mentally, it seems; they just grow older, without accumulating much if any wisdom.

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You can also love the parts you’re going to change, as you change them. You don’t have to turn off the love to do surgery.

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That’s very true. I routinely change the parts of me I love. I try to make them better. I’m a kind and loving person, but I’m trying to change that from a selfless form to a self preserving form. To know my limits and stop pouring from an empty cup.

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You can even love the parts you are saying goodbye to. Not improving, but eliminating. You never have to turn off the love at all ever for anything.

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Just because you don’t understand something within the first 5 seconds doesn’t mean it’s stupid.

Also information changes on a daily basis. Just because someone gave you different information than what you were taught doesn’t mean they were taught wrong. Look it up.

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As a 30+ person, this hits true. I heard my first friend say “the crap music these kids are listening to”. Like dude, have just some self awareness, remember our parents saying green day and blink -182 were crap.

I would add to this that we don’t need to understand something for there to be value to others. There are trends I don’t understand, like dancing on tiktok, but it apparently brings the youths joy so have at it.

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As a 40+ person, I strongly agree with my young colleague here.

Listen to what you want, kids. Enjoy it. And don’t let anyone tell you you’re wrong about it.

As Common once put it, “If I don’t like it, I don’t like it, that don’t mean that I’m hatin’.”

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Loving this chain. Also over 30. I get frustrated that what older generations used to spout about Millenials like me (lazy, don’t want to work, etc) gets spouted by my generation to gen z.

I’ve seen some Gen Z kids do some bad things, but I’ve also seen them do amazing things my generation would not have done.

As far as music, I love all the variety there is and all the mediums to listen to it now.

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The advice-for-kids thread is elsewhere. This is an advice for old people thread.

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Tbf some of the popular music has been shit since music began I’m sure, but there’s also always good stuff. For instance rap music, most of it these days is garbage like lil uzi and lil peep, but there’s still dudes like Aesop Rock (not ASAP Rocky, Aesop Rock), Run The Jewels, Meyhem Lauren, Lil Nas X, making good shit out there. Pop hasn’t been good since the 80s though. Oddly enough I think my favorite stuff from “now” is actually the fact that shoegaze is coming back but called zoomergaze and it’s fantastic! The band Julie is a good example, check out their EP Pushing Daisies. Also there’s been some really good recent country, namely Charley Crockett and Sturgil Simpson, and (ok it’s psychedelic bluegrass but) Billy Strings.

There is good stuff, we just have to dig through piles of shit for it.

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3 points

Talking to the admin of a pop music instance there bud.

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Well, less people are listening new releases each year, more are listening old songs…

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There are trends I don’t understand, like dancing on tiktok, but it apparently brings the youths joy so have at it.

It’s actually called tap dancing, and if you think of that as a youths thing you’re older than dirt.

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61 points

Burnout is real. Step back for a bit and return rested, instead of abandoning the fight for justice entirely. Taking breaks is just as important as being active.

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No time off from work, back in to the mines with you!

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48 points

Middle class people often think that they’re barely getting by but forget that they live larger and more luxurious than necessary.

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Yeah but the theft of wealth from the middle class doesn’t become false because a few people live it large.

In fact, middle class is always encouraged to live it large by 24X7 marketing by corporations.

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10 points

Of course middle class people get stolen from, but they often use their job as an excuse not to organise which is lame imo because I know a lot of people who have it worse and put in way more effort in community building

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Fuckin A man. I entered middle class briefly, for the first time in my life, by landing a coding job at six figures.

I let myself get warped, ethically, by my desire not slip below that line again, back into struggle.

But, fortunately for me, stepping away from the right path sapped my energy and I failed at the job and got fired. During the time I had that job my health suffered.

Now I realized that, at least for me, the only way I can rise sustainably is if I stay in accordance with my conscience. And the way it hurt my health, it made me realize it’s actually the right move to sacrifice the money to the conscience. The good feeling is better than anything money can buy.

I know it sounds cheesy, but it’s real for me. And honestly I feel fortunate to be weak enough that I can’t really operate in the world without that extra dopamine kick from my conscience. Like my discipline and focus aren’t great, and things fall apart when I start breaking promises and making bad ones and doing sloppy work for bad reasons, etc.

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Just because a comment contains a criticism of X group doesn’t mean it’s a condemnation of the group and thereby a repudiation of all their grievances.

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My point is that people don’t want to discuss the real problem of the perverted capitalist discourse.

Its a shame that a middle class person who wants to use their extra income for joy is instead told to work hard and save money for half a century and die early without experiencing any kind of joy or reward for their hard work.

Sometimes you have to live a little. You aren’t getting your good health back.

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I’ve seen this play out first hand with people gradually climbing up the socioeconomic ladder as they reach middle age. They forget how things were at the lower middle class compared to the upper middle or even proper upper class.

It gets hard to talk about these days with the social media bullshit muddying up discourse. Because people start seeing red at the mere idea of broaching this topic.

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People also have no idea what classes mean. Someone making 40k per year and someone making 400k per year will both say they are middle class. And both would be wrong.

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They will both agree to broad idea that “rich bad” and “middle class is struggling”. Their relative suffering is what they both agree on even though they’re different.

If the 40k person saw how the 400k person lives in real life, they would be rolling out the guillotine for the 400k dude. But without proper context online that 40k person will go to bat for the 400k person if anyone brings up the topic of lifestyle.

The further up the scale the more luxury there is. However people work with more binary thinking. So it’s easier to point at the dudes making 1000k or more. The territory of more unfathomable weath. Really there’s a lot of excess going on way before we reach the multi-millionaire to billionaire strata.

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