150 points

A reminder this was during a time period we all collectively agreed to ignore Arnold’s accent for narrative purposes.

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My theory, at least for purposes of The Terminator, is that after Judgment Day, there were some human holdouts in Austria who sent troops to help fight Skynet, so that’s why an Austrian accent would be assigned to an infiltration unit.

I have nothing to say about Terminator 3. That was like three or four timeline modifications later. There’s bound to be some reality degradation.

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Omg I forgot that’s not even a joke. He played Americans and didn’t even try

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The number of times I’ve watched Twins and that…didn’t, at all, stick out to me…

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2 points

Jfc you’re right… not even in the one where they’re making you think about his different appearance from Devito

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Meanwhile, in Germany, they have to dub him, even if he speaks German, because he sounds like a country bumpkin.

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Total fiction. Everyone knows you have to go to a unlicensed seller at a gun show in the majority of states for that, not a gun store

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in the majority of states

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States Where You Can Buy a Gun at a Gun Show Without a Waiting Period or Background Check

In the following states, private sellers (non-licensed individuals) at gun shows can sell firearms without conducting a background check or imposing a waiting period:

Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas Georgia Idaho Indiana Kentucky Louisiana Maine Mississippi Missouri Montana New Hampshire New Mexico North Carolina (only for rifles & shotguns; handguns require a permit) North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming

FREEDOM

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13 points

North Carolina no longer requires a permit, except for concealed carry.

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All you need to do to stop that is make it possible for private individuals to conduct or verify a background check without involving an FFL dealer.

Sellers have a responsibility to sell only to non-prohibited people. Without a public background check option, that means you can’t sell if you have reason to believe they are prohibited.

As soon as you provide the option, your refusal to conduct a check on a prohibited person stops being exculpatory evidence and starts demonstrating malfeasance.

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I love that the only surprising part of that list is that north Carolina was somewhat responsible

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Virginia implemented a universal background check law a couple years ago that banned private sales without going through an FFL so they can be removed from the list. Though I’m not sure about the other half of the country

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It doesn’t have to be a gun show, can be anywhere. I’ve legally purchased a handful of guns in random parking lots.

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unlicensed seller at a gun show

Says people who have never been to a gun show. Find me ONE table that’s unlicensed.

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There’s one gun show near me that allows private sellers to register for a table. The only time I’ve ever seen it is people in a historic items collectors club that show up, and I’ve only ever seen one with a gun to sell that was in working order and manufactured post-1899. He wanted $5,000 for a beat up m1917 Enfield. I don’t know whether he was stupid, or looking for someone else who was.

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I’m sure there are plenty.

The finer detail though is that any FFL with a table still has to run a NICS background check. While any non-FFL doesn’t (and to my knowledge can’t even if they wanted to), which is exactly the same as if they were selling privately in any other way.

So, it is true you can buy a gun without a background check at a gun show, but it’s not like it’s a special law free zone where FFLs suddenly are exempt from the rules. It’s a unique situation where businesses and private sellers are selling guns right next to each other, each following different legal requirements.

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Tbf, some states allow private sellers at gun shows, some don’t, some shows in states that do allow it won’t allow it themselves, etc. It’s kinda a mixed bag leaning more towards ā€œmostly FFLs.ā€

My local has both, for instance.

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I can find several people walking around with an AR15 strapped on their back with a sign that says ā€œFor sale, $1200ā€. That’s the actual private sales loophole.

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No. That wouldn’t happen in a gun store.

You’d have to go to a gun show.

Edit: a gun show is like comic con, only for guns.

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I mean Terminator 1 takes place in 1984. As far a quick search goes, there were no background checks, no assault weapon ban, no waiting period, …etc

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I think you could still buy machine guns. No phased plasma rifles though.

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12 points

Hey pal, only what you see here.

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2 points

It’s really difficult to buy them even now.

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Background checks started in '68, they didn’t become instant until like '93 because internet but they still existed, I think it was by phone back then. The rest of that isn’t around now either except for some states, the national AWB expired 21yr ago, and there’s never been national waiting periods.

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Background checks started in '68, they didn’t become instant until like '93 because internet but they still existed

They may have existed and some states imposed them but they weren’t required federally until the Brady bill in '93 .

there’s never been national waiting periods.

There was a 5 day waiting period required nationally between when the Brady bill was first enacted in '93 and when the national instant criminal background check system came online in '98

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The NFA existed.

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Private sales are private sales. Has nothing to do with gun shows, that shit is just ignorance from anti-2a groups/people. The pro2a people have been asking for access to the NICS for years. Even if we had to pay $10 for a BG check to come back as clear or not, but they don’t want that because it takes away from their wedge issue.

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even as a foreigner, it is clear to me that gun-wary Americans tend not to be anti-2a, but want background checks and gun limits. Maybe politicians fit your narrative, especially Democrats, but if you are talking about citizens you are likely straw-manning.

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The point is that private sellers have been asking to access NICS (the background check system) but politicians, who are in charge of giving that access through laws, have not allowed it. It is not ā€œstrawmanningā€ to be talking about the people with the actual ability to provide the access.

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but they don’t want that because it takes away from their wedge issue.

Who is ā€œtheyā€ in this case?

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Republicans and Democrats. They both require wedge issues to keep us divided and easily steered.

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It’s required in Illinois to use a private seller portal for private sales through the state police site. It does some kind of check and it’s free to use.

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That’s awesome, does it do the national database? That’s one of the downfalls I’ve read about. Local BGCs end up being just local, so someone can just hop the state line and then it’s pointless. Every gun owner I’ve ever talked to has wanted access to the NICS, we want to know who we’re selling to. Most of the people I talk with won’t sell unless the person buying has a CCW.

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What would not be like that? Nidal Hasan did it pretty much like that prior to his 2009 Fort Hood shooting?

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Except Comic Con is rare, and they don’t have to take down their ā€œgun show this weekend!ā€ signs here in Iowa because that’s every weekend, or so it seems.

Agreed though. I was actually worried about what maga might do if Harris won, so I made my first purchases before the election. I had to provide ID, enter some personal identifiers into a website and be approved by a federal agency. It took an extra 30 minutes or so.

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I live next to fairgrounds. Every Saturday: Gun and Knife Show.

But I also remember working at a marina and where I saw far more transactions take place between two parked vehicles than anything that requires paperwork.

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a gun show is like comic con, only for guns.

So people dress up as sexy guns?

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They cosplay as tough guys.

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It was when I was younger. At 16, I was able to walk into a local gun shop and buy two boxes of 9mm ammo. Shop owner didn’t seem to care at all, so my friend (17) went back in weeks later to buy a .22 pistol.

No ID. No anything.

Thankfully, things have changed since then.

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Changed for the better, right?

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Better for sure, now kids can buy assault rifles /s

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You should have got a gun the same caliber as the ammunition.

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šŸ˜‚ we were so young and dumb, we didn’t think that far ahead.

My friend just wanted something small (bad, BAD city), and what I bought wasn’t even for me. I got sent in by older guys who apparently weren’t allowed to buy ammo.

In retrospect, I think I was lied to šŸ¤”

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I hope you then sent the older guys in to the liquor store to buy you booze, as is tradition.

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You think the owner knew?

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