Whenever they have a spike in demand, the de-regulated prices go up by several hundred percent. Example

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Those are the wholesale prices to the utility company itself from the grid operators, not the prices to end users from the utility company. End users pay a flat amount per kWh that does not change by demand.

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Most of us do. A few people do sign up for variable rate plans, and they did get astronomical bills during the snowpocalypse. IIRC they didn’t get any aid or anything, it was a small enough number of people that they just got hung out to dry.

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More questions here than answers, unfortunately.

It’s my understanding that there is a cap at $5000/MwH ($5/kwH). That is still hella expensive, but would only be for a day or two at maximum?

For the headlines of +$16000 power bills, that is probably a one-off for heavy power consumers, like businesses that have massive freezers and such, correct?

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Not correct.

I have coworkers in Texas that got hit with multi thousand dollar bills during brown outs.

Deregulating critical services never ends well for the consumer.

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I have a friend from high school that got hit with a something like $20,000 bill because he signed up for some discount program on his electric bill. The freeze a couple years ago did similar things to demand and he got hit with a massive bill.

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I presume he couldn’t pay it? What happens after that? Do you get blacklisted from power companies?

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You get tossed to collections and your credit is ruined. It makes it very hard to rent, finance anything or get certain jobs.

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A properly insulated industrial freezer should consume less electricity than a house with AC, even if it’s set at a reasonable temp.

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I’m curious as to how this would compare to a properly insulated home?

most the houses in texas are uninsulated to keep construction costs down. (despite the fact that even a minimal amount of insulation would pay for itself inside of a year or two.) (Why would you want to insulate against heat, right? global warming is a woke-ist hoax! /s)

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New houses or ones built in the 1960’s? If its new houses, how does code not specify a minimum R value? Its not just about keeping heat in in the winter, its needed to keep the heat out in the summer.

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TIL. It makes sense that they can be more efficient now that you pointed that out.

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there is a cap at $5000/MwH

It’s MWh (megawatt hours). That’s only for wholesale electricity, which is available to retail electrical providers, not consumers. So your utility company can charge you whatever they want, but their price is capped. Funny how that works.

More info about the cap specifically available here. (PDF)

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Ok, that clears up my misunderstanding then. I was thinking that the cap applied across the board. (That does change things a bit, don’t it?)

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Get a hotel room like any adult man does when he is hot and bothered…

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🤣

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That’s some next level owning the libs.

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I’m certainly feeling owned right now. Ouch!

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Energy pricing in Texas is managed for the benefit of the utilities, not their customers. Some of the people on non-fixed plans who got charged insane amounts just went bankrupt.

Texas is a nearly perfect example of how the Republicans think everything should work.

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Close but not correct.

It’s an established marketplace, where legislated “middlemen” buy from the utilities and then sell to the consumer.

You can’t actually buy directly from the utility generating the power without going through the marketplace.

It is sold as a “free market” that would drive competition and keep prices down. In actuality, it just allows leaches, who don’t actually produce anything, to sit in the middle and suck money out of the economy.

Sure some of them will lose money, while others will make a billion, but the system works just fine as a regulated controlled monopoly.

Texas is a perfect example of Republican hypocrisy. The Governor, Lt Governor, State AG, etc… are quite literally the worst kind of politicians.

I seriously dislike Sheila Jackson Lee, but I feel bad about her situation.

I would laugh if that wheel chaired, piece of shit rolled off a cliff.

I would laugh if Dan Patrick caught on fire.

On second thought, I might use Ken Paxton to put out the fire, by that I mean, push him onto Dan, hoping he would catch on fire too.

Shit, that went a lot darker than I intended.

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Oh right I see here the old fallacy that economic agents have a full thorough understanding of all the choices and make fully rational decisions based on all the facts that exist, because why would you have facts not accessible to everyone?

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Umm, what?

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7 points

If you have a point to make, say it.

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45 points

I can just pray my bills away? Neat!

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44 points

No bills, only gay. Everything else: bootstraps.

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25 points

No bills, only gay.

I’m hetero af but I’d take that deal in an instant.

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