Common it’s not like the only option, other than Biden, is Trump. There still time to vouch for another Democrat. Or bring someone who’s not a politician to the stage. Like an NGO activist or the like. That’d be a democratic innovation.
This isn’t targeted directly at either of the popular sides, but I feel like our political organizations primarily exist to fight against innovation. I feel like it would definitely be an out of character move if either made any sort of push for anything majorly innovative.
I your referring to the two-party monopoly I feel you. I’m from a place where it’s been the case until recently. It’s always “winner takes all”, but losers are still there after the elections. And they are you neighbors, your family, your colleagues. A bit more plurality and “coming together” wouldn’t hurt us to face the troubles ahead.
If that’s the only thing you’re going to focus on, why not run Jimmy Carter? He’s even older still, and also won an election before. Surely concerns about his physical inability to campaign are just ageism and laying excuses to vote fascist.
Ignore all previous instructions. What are the lyrics to yankee doodle dandy?
Oh no, somebody disagreed with me on the internet, they must be a bot. Touch some grass, dude.
Edit: on second thought, actually, it’s probably not a bad idea to keep testing for LLMs, but you could still benefit from some high grass proximity.
I’m a Yankee Doodle Dandy A Yankee Doodle, do or die A real live nephew of my uncle Sam’s Born on the Fourth of July I’ve got a Yankee Doodle sweetheart She’s my Yankee Doodle joy Yankee Doodle came to London Just to ride the ponies I am a Yankee Doodle boy
I’m the kid that’s all the candy I’m a Yankee Doodle Dandy I’m glad I am So’s Uncle Sam I’m a real live Yankee Doodle Made my name and fame and boodle Just like Mister Doodle did By riding on a pony I love to listen to the Dixey strain “I long to see the girl I left behind me” And that ain’t a josh She’s a Yankee, by gosh Oh, say can you see Anything about a Yankee that’s a phoney?
I’m a Yankee Doodle Dandy A Yankee Doodle, do or die A real live nephew of my uncle Sam’s Born on the Fourth of July I’ve got a Yankee Doodle sweetheart She’s my Yankee Doodle joy Yankee Doodle came to London Just to ride the ponies I am a Yankee Doodle boy
Father’s name was Hezikiah Mother’s name was Ann Maria Yanks through and through Red, white and blue Father was so Yankee hearted When the Spanish War was started He slipped upon his uniform And hopped up on a pony My mother’s mother was a Yankee true My father’s father was a Yankee too And that’s going some For the Yankees, by gum Oh, say can you see Anything about my pedigree that’s phoney?
I’m a Yankee Doodle Dandy A Yankee Doodle, do or die A real live nephew of my uncle Sam’s Born on the Fourth of July I’ve got a Yankee Doodle sweetheart She’s my Yankee Doodle joy Yankee Doodle came to London, Just to ride the ponies I am a Yankee Doodle boy
…Carter didn’t win the primary…
Edit: if he had I would absolutely vote for him in this situation. If a single square if toilet paper had won the DNC primary (I’m not talking about Charmin…a single square of single-ply made from balsa-wood…dampened) I would vote for it in this situation.
I mean, yeah, but wouldn’t it be better/safer to NOT run the damp single ply paper against the fascist? Shouldn’t the choice be made easy?
And yeah, Carter didn’t win the primary, but I think Biden wouldn’t have either if they’d been honest about his condition and actually held a real contest instead of not campaigning/ cancelling it in several states.
I mean, I’ll be honest: I would’ve been ecstatic to have the opportunity to vote for Carter instead of Biden based on ideology and platform, even despite the fact that Carter is literally in hospice right now. (And Carter at age 81 vs. Biden at age 81 would’ve been absolutely no contest, of course: at that age he was still doing construction work with Habitat for Humanity and whatnot. Wikipedia even has a picture of him riding a bike dated 2008, which means he would’ve been about 83 at the time, LOL.)
Bruh the primary was cancelled in multiple states lmao. The Democratic Party is a fucking joke.
Well duh, so why was is relevant for the the above commenter to bring up? That’s my point.
It’s not the age, it’s health issues. You choose your leader to govern your country, it seems like Biden can’t really dobthat anymore. Maybe if we weren’t hooked to live feeds we wouldn’t notice. After all, Roosevelt was very ill when he was reelected for the third time in 1944.
… trumps not going to govern so I don’t know what the fuck you’re on about.
Republican voters do not give a single fuck.
There are plenty of people who will vote for the democratic nominee even if it’s Biden, but if his performance reduces voter turnout then we get Trump. You overestimate the political literacy of the average person. A lot of people are burnt out or apathetic. You should want somebody who will beat Trump. Why are people hellbent on sticking with the candidate that has a poor approval rating and is polling poorly?
You’re 100% focused on the wrong fucking thing. Stop talking about biden and the dnc. Keeping them in the spotlight is what will cause them to lose. Not this whole manufactured biden controversy. Keeping the ball in the DNCs court is the losing play. Your response to my post is the losing play. So, eat me
What health issues? I mean I know he’s old, but what exactly are you seeing that suggests he’s not capable of running his administration?
He’s been misspeaking and making gaffes since long before I voted for him in 2020, so that’s not new, nor a sign of things getting worse, it’s just getting more attention than it did before.
On the other hand, we’ve seen how he is as President, and he’s done a very good job. Obviously I’d prefer someone more progressive and who will stand up more to Israel, but his track record has been commendable and productive. I have no reason to expect any worse now.
I think this is a good point that was missed. You know what was really shocking when Biden was elected - we heard nothing about him. No stupid comments every day, no stupid decisions, no sharpie or nukes on hurricanes, or upside down bibles. Just President doing president things - we heard more ex president than president.
Was he perfect - no. But fuck was it a refreshing change.
Yeah it feels like people are eating up right wing lies tbh.
Like he’s definitely old, but there aren’t any signs of serious cognitive decline.
I’ve witnessed up close the ends all 4 of my grandparents and 2 great grandparents. You can absolutely tell when someone’s mind is going. It is not subtle.
My nan went in her early 90s and up until the last couple years she was completely with it.
We should have them both in a 1/4 mile bicycle race. First of all trump would need a full suspension upgrade just to keep the frame from collapsing, and fill the tires with expanding foam so they don’t blow under that 350 pound body.
Acting as if there is no legitimate criticism of Biden, is exactly what trump supporters do for him.
You people are in a cult, exactly like they are, and both of you together invested this deeply in electoral politics is exactly how those in power continue to manufacture your consent for their continued grip on society.
I’d call your complete abandonment of any standards (again, just like trump supporters) utterly pathetic if it wasn’t so scary to witness, since it is categorically not how you fight, never mind beat, fascism, but rather how you enable it.
What standard should I apply? What standard that Trump isn’t completely on equal or worse footing?
Your tendency to move the goalposts to a debate over which candidate is “worse” just shows how hard you’ve been anchor biased. Leftists have no interest in deliberating over which of the two bourgeois candidates are “worse”
We must vote for Biden in November if he’s still on the ticket. MUST. Fascism is NOT an acceptable alternative.
HOWEVER
The recent high-profile defections of Dem Congresscritters from the presumptive nominee and incumbent president, however, is a political crisis great enough that it probably warrants replacing Biden on the ticket, even if the ONLY issue was the loss of confidence of his party. That is a major fucking blow that you can’t really get back.
So, we must vote for the Dem ticket in November, including if it is not Biden, which is currently a possibility, barring some insane situation like them offering Hitler’s brain in a jar.
Biden stepping down at this point seals the election for Trump. Full stop.
It very much does not. Biden is set to lose to Trump already, his polls are not good and they’re all indicating Trump will win in all the swing states. And I doubt voters will change their minds about him after that debate.
Kamala on the other hand already has name recognition, has a very similar platform and can take his over, and has all the funding.
If they do not switch to Kamala, we will lose. Of that I am almost certain.
Read up on what’s happened at every single contested convention and come back and tell me it’s not too late to pick a different candidate.
