Hi, my post is focusing specifically on YouTube since I observed the following categories have less intrusive solutions or privacy focused solutions, even if they are paid:

  • Operating Systems (Linux, for example)
  • Instant Messaging (Element, for example)
  • Community Messaging (Revolt, for example)
  • E-Mail (Proton, for example)
  • Office (libreoffice, for example)
  • Password Managers (Bitwarden, for example)

However, how do we distribute videos and watch them without data collection? I am NOT asking how do I use a privacy-focused front-end for YouTube, by the way, I am aware they exist.

I am wondering how we obtain a FOSS solution to something super critical such as YouTube. It is critical since it contains a lot of educational content (Iโ€™d wager more than any other platform), and arguably the most informative platform, despite having to filter through a lot of trash. During COVID, we even saw lecturers from universities upload their content on YouTube and telling students to watch those lectures. (I have first-hand experience with this at a respectable university).

I refuse to accept that there is nothing we can do about it.

People use YouTube because YouTube pays them. You want to get paid without a middleman; you have to use cryptocurrency. The Fediverse hates crypto, so the Fediverse will never have a YouTube replacement.

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People use YouTube because thatโ€™s where you get biggest outreach. YouTube pay a little, but YouTubers mostly rely on secondary incomes like sponsors and Patreon. Both of these are viable on any other platform.

Podcasts have mainly been using this model for a long time.

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if that were true, thereโ€™d be a Youtube competitor by now

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What exactly would prevent people from paying in actual currencies? Crypto is in no way a requirement for a YT replacement whatsoever.

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then the bank could stop processing your payments because they donโ€™t like your content

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What exactly would prevent people from paying in actual currencies? Crypto is in no way a requirement for a YT replacement whatsoever.

You want to get paid without a middleman

This is the part you missed. Imagine Lemmy but for videos instead of links. Users pay creators via some subscription or likes mechanism. Lemmy instance admins do not want to deal with:

  • Custodying the funds and having to keep them safe
  • Having to make connections to every major national banking system or payment processor
  • Dealing with chargebacks, payment disputes, counterparty risks, KYC/AML/other onerous regulations etc. People are used to cards being โ€œinstantโ€ but full settlement on the backend takes days to weeks depending on how you define โ€œsettlementโ€.

Doing these things is an absolute nightmare and takes a lot of human time. Human time costs lots of money. All this just to move money from viewers to content creators.

Bitcoin via lightning, for example, can do all of this for them without any of that mess. Payments can go P2P directly from viewers to creators. Payments can be settled instantly for <1% in fees, usually pennies.

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There are many payment services that require pretty much nothing from the server/instance once implemented, and doesnโ€™t cost anything for the instance (the fees are taken from the payer), specifically to address the issues you mention. Itโ€™s already a solved issue.

With bitcoin everyone now has to go to an exchange to convert the pseudo-currency to actual usable currencies, which is a much more annoying middleman IMO, which will then also take a cut.

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If youโ€™re a creator, upload to Peertube and Youtube, and promote Peertube on your Youtube channel. Itโ€™s a compromise, but itโ€™s the only realistic way to pull viewers over if youโ€™re not already a popular creator. Also provide some incentives to use Peertube instead of Youtube, like early uploads.

If youโ€™re a viewer, use Peertube; and when you need to use Youtube, use a 3rd party client like pipe-viewer. Donโ€™t support ad culture, donate to creators you like instead.

Proton as a private alternative to Gmail

lol, lmao

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lol, lmao

I assume you donโ€™t understand how law and authorities work, if this is funny for you. Proton is still one of the best private email providers. Period.

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Oh I understand it, and I also understand that laws can be wrong and corrupt, and shouldnโ€™t always be followed. If you think how law-abiding a corporation is is more important than protecting privacy of activists, maybe that shows your true colors.

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I think that you should look at our world realistically. You canโ€™t just go โ€œfuck the govermentโ€ mode and remain active as a corporation. Proton shared as less info as possible, but they couldnโ€™t refuse to share it at all.

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Check out FreeTube to privately watch YouTube videos, and PeerTube for a complete replacement.

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That is a temporary solution. OP is looking for a whole other service to replace YouTube.

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I thought peertube attempts to be a complete replacement

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Lobby your government to nationalize it. Anything that important canโ€™t be left to private industry.

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Element isnโ€™t replacing shit. I hate Matrix

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โ€ฆAgreed & real weird to see a specific client mentioned instead of a protocol.

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