It’s pushing us into extremely weird territory to have two candidates this unpopular.
The difference is Biden unpopularity is due to uncertainty while trumps is due to EXTREME certainty that he’s a piece of garbage
There’s nothing uncertain about Biden at this point. It’s a matter of being in denial or anger.
I think what they’re getting at is that we’re uncertain the extent age will affect his duties. Will his cabinet and other advisors be really “in control,” or will Biden insist on his way forcing others to kowtow. It is certain that the dude is old as hell and if it were he alone, he would be incapable of the job. Since there’s a staff and a ton of advisors, the degree of control they have is, well, uncertain.
Biden unpopularity is due to uncertainty
Which I don’t understand. I’m certain Biden won’t institute project 2025 so the choice should be obvious.
Worst case scenario for Biden is he’s mostly absent and his cabinet has to guide him through policies making the Democratic party mostly in control.
Which is pretty much exactly what Trump’s first term was adding in a lot of grift and pointless spite.
Uncertainty my ass. Joe Biden is running on an excellent record. He is running on his policies.
Disclaimer this is very unlikely.
I have seen enough people grow older and senile and start acting totally out of character. People who I would have called progressive start supporting Trump because of old man brain.
There’s no pushing. We were already in extremely weird territory when the news media can present the candidates so dishonestly that Biden is at all unpopular.
He forgave hundreds of billions of dollars in students loans, reduced income inequality for the first time in god knows how long, increased working class wages even when adjusted for historically massive inflation, raised corporate tax by a MASSIVE amount in order to fund all of the above, and also spent a trillion dollars on trying to address climate change, like the first time ever that a US presidency actually tried to do something about it in a big way, which is way too little way too late but that’s not his fault.
His opponent is a literal pants shitting moron who goes on weird tirades about toilets and windmills; even the truest of true believers often walk out of his speeches before they are finished, because they are unhinged and random and, at the end of the day, uninteresting. His campaign priorities are cartoonishly evil. Beyond cartoonish. They sound like a joke. He wants to kill foreigners, throw his political opponents in prison, and make friends with our nation’s worst enemies siding with them against American soldiers and American people. He wants to ban contraception and porn, and dismantle the Department of Education and the FDA. And the FBI. And NOAA.
And yet, somehow, the news manages to present such a distorted landscape that “Biden is very old and shit the bed at the debate” is like the most relevant thing everyone is trying to talk about, even now, a month later, when it is objectively undeniable that the great mass of the Democratic electorate doesn’t give a shit about it and cares more about all that earlier stuff. As well they should. They are, surprisingly enough, not as stupid as you and the news keep consistently, relentlessly, dishonestly, pretending that they are.
I won’t say that distorted media creation won’t succeed, and get Trump elected, against whoever his opponent turns out to be. But yes, it will be extremely weird (as well as absolutely infuriating for those of us who live in America and have to experience what might happen under a second Trump presidency) how we got here and what destination we’ve arrived at.
For all your talk and posts why do you not push Chase Oliver, both sides claim third party is death, but literally every normal person I know is Fuck Biden and Fuck Trump, and no polls say either have actually support. Support is literally all tea party and blue no matter who, and these whack jobs wonder why Regular folks are angry, but its all manufactured? Inflation isnt real and the economy is the best ever, like everybody hates trump and Biden fucked that up, i have workers (poc) tell me a racist president is bad but i didnt have to budget milk for my kids, Trump was way better than Biden. But somehow people tell me this crazy? Like maybe you got alot of investments but regular folk dont care the nasdaq rose today especially when they have to tell their kids I cant
Because the reason all third parties fail is that the first-past-the-post counting of votes makes it mathematically impossible. A third party will necessarily steal more votes from one side than the other, making said other side win
You forgot the part where he literally raped children and argued after the fact about who deserved to claim one of their virginities.
Allegedly.
Dude it is IMPOSSIBLE to list bad things Trump did without missing some huge ones
Hey did you know his estranged ex-wife died by falling down the stairs, and she’s buried on his property?
I’m not saying that automatically definitively means anything. But tell me one other human being on the planet who that combination of circumstances ever happened to.
Or, alternately, one other human being who was once involved with Trump for which he gives any kind of a shit any which way about where they should be buried.
I’ll wait.
If it weren’t for the political realities of how voting works under first-past-the-post, the progressive wing of the Democratic party could have easily split off into a separate party whose younger leadership and willingness to push for actually-meaningful change could probably have run circles around the Dems at this point.
…Man, I really wish I could vote for a presidential candidate that I actually believed in, instead of this “vote for the status-quo neoliberal or democracy dies” bullshit.
This copium is off the charts ridiculous.
I don’t want Trump to win, which is why I think it’s incredibly unhelpful to spread the delusion that current polling is favorable to a Biden victory.
That wasn’t even true before the debate, but at least there were enough polls within the margin of error that it was possible.
Biden’s polling has only gone down since then, while Trump’s have trended upwards. Not by the same margins, but still, opposite directions.
This article is actually arguing about changes in polls that are less than 0.5%, seriously, it’s a joke…
Here is an aggregated page that links out to over 50 different polls for Georgia, one of the states mentioned in the article where Trump it’s supposedly hurting, according to that article:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president-georgia.html
Here’s that same aggregated polling information for the other two states mentioned in the article:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president-michigan.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president-north-carolina.html
Take a look and tell me if that article, much less it’s headline, have any bearing on reality.
Yeah, dems are looking for any positive spin on this reeling campaign.
Posting 538 links here because they aren’t paywalled and are doing similar aggregating with similar results for anyone who doesn’t want to use nyt:
Just FYI, 538 today is not the same as it was when they became noteworthy. Nate Silver left the company (and its parent, Disney). He also took his models with him, since those were merely licensed (unlike the name/company).
The new 538 is being run by a guy with very questionable models.
Polling lead reduced…still leading
Polls? We still think those mean shit!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The presumptive Republican presidential nominee is set to face the incumbent president in November, and polls have so far predicted that the results of the 2020 White House rematch will be tight—with the pair statistically tied or holding only marginal leads in a number of surveys.
However, in three swing states there are signs that Biden has marginally increased his support since participating in the first presidential debate, despite giving what was seen as a poor performance.
During the debate, Biden gave a series of incoherent and confusing responses and appeared to trail off at times without finishing his sentences.
He has since received calls from within his party to end his reelection bid and allow Democrats to install a new candidate for the general election.
Surveys like these are significant due to the Electoral College system, which awards each state a certain number of votes based on population.
But Trump only won there by 1.3 percent of the vote in 2020—his narrowest state win—and North Carolina often elects Democratic governors.
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