Sorry guys, rent-a-cops don’t get the same murder privileges. Imagine going to prison for a hotel chain.
A lot of rent-a-cops are regular cops off-duty, so I wouldn’t be so sure.
i wouldn’t say a lot. you’d be amazed how massive the private security industry is. it’s mostly shit jobs that pay pile 15/hr for you to watch cameras and occasionally scan little wall dots to prove you walked down a hall.
my old roommate did this kind of security for a different building in Milwaukee. none of his coworkers were cops, nor were they trained in any meaningful way.
I knew a guy who had masters degree in philosophy that worked as a security guard. Turns out that the job market isn’t great for philosophers.
Our security guard spends most of his time chasing away fentanyl addicts shooting up inside our elevator and cleaning up poop from them after they devour tubs and tubs of ice cream (they poop in our parking garage stairway every single day).
Also, calling the police and helping to coordinate cleanup in the daily car break ins we have at the office. My boss had his truck windows smashed 5 times since 2021.
So yes, some security officers actually do real work. Ours doesn’t even carry a gun and said he would not physically interact with anyone unless someone’s life was on the line.
If that rent a cop was ever a member of the FOP hes going to slide like a bobsled.
FOP
Fraternal Order of Police
slide like a bobsled
The charges won’t stick. See: Teflon Don
Check out how news orgs are covering this story.
Associated Press: “Milwaukee hotel employees fired after death of Black man who was pinned to the ground”
NBC: “Video shows Black man being pinned down by Milwaukee hotel security shortly before death”
CBS: “Milwaukee hotel workers fired after death of Black man pinned down outside”
ABC: “Al Sharpton to deliver eulogy for Black man who died after being held down by Milwaukee hotel guards”
CNN: “A Black man died after he was pinned to the ground by security guards at a Milwaukee hotel. Now his family wants answers”
Fox 6 Milwaukee: “Hyatt Regency Milwaukee death; man’s family gathers outside hotel”
Fox News: “”
These are the earliest stories posted by each outlet that I could find. The headlines speak volumes. The local Fox affiliate omits the fact that the man was black in the headline, and Fox News has yet to acknowledge it even happened, which was 12 days ago (June 30). I’m sure they’ll get around to it, though.
Fox news is probably hard at work trying to find pictures of him on social media with a gun, or drugs, or anything that gives them the “he was no angel” narrative
Literally. This isn’t even a joke, I guarantee there are people doing this as we speak.
Yep, because it is extremely effective on their base. Any reason they can discount a person as a bad one, or as a “criminal,” makes them a sub-human animal whose rights and worth can be completely disregarded.
I can hear some of my conservative family now. “Oh he got killed? WELL I GUESS HE SHOULDN’T HAVE CHOSEN TO STEAL/TAKE DRUGS/BE BLACK/BE A CRIMINAL HUH?!?”
All of them seem to be using the passive voice to. They should say something akin to “Video shows security guard pinning and killing black man.”
That’s standard practice as you can’t say that the guard killed him until he’s actually been convicted.
Hence why it was so incredibly satisfying to get the ruling on George Floyd, and henceforth officially refer to it as “the police murder of George Floyd” - a lot of people will even forcefully correct anyone that tries to refer to it as ‘tragic death’ or ‘accidental death’.
Killing isn’t a legal designation. You can factually say that someone killed a another person without calling what they did murder or manslaughter.
Why does it matter that the guy was black?
How about something like:
Hotel guards kill father of two, holding him down while he cries for help.
Why does it matter that the guy was black?
You know exactly why it matters. Go troll somewhere else.
I’m not trolling, I read the article and a few things stood out.
This guy has two kids, I have 3 at similar ages, he has a family that loved him. The article states he had some mental health issues, but doesn’t go into how severe (I assume low level, otherwise it would have stated it). It says that he was unarmed, you know what American gun culture fucks up to many things for you, this shouldn’t even be a point of note.
The least interesting thing about a murder victim should be their race. Would it make any difference if he was Chinese, Indian or Samoan? A man was killed, his kids will miss him, is family will morn him.
As for
You know exactly why it matters.
I have an idea why you think it matters, I know why I think it doesn’t. If this was a race based killing, that can be taken into account at sentencing.
Probably because it might have been a hate crime and might have done it for hate reasons, and maybe they will do it again unless they are held accountable. That would be my guess.
Shouldn’t they be held accountable for killing a human?
I thought murder was bad, as a general rule.
Because police encounters with black people has been an ongoing issue since they were brought over on boats to the united states.
Many studies have highlighted disparities in how black people are treated.
For instance: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/
Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than white Americans to be killed by police, according to a new study by researchers from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The researchers examined 5,494 police-related deaths in the U.S. between 2013 and 2017. Rates of deadly police encounters were higher in the West and South than in the Midwest and Northeast, according to the study. Racial disparities in killings by police varied widely across the country, with some metropolitan areas showing very high differences between treatment by race. Black Chicagoans, for example, were found to be over 650% more likely to be killed by police than white Chicagoans.
So humans often study patterns in human behavior in order to gain insight into things like group dynamics, sometimes even as a profession. Crazy right?
And others try to use that data to try and correct historical injustices and atrocities we’ve made against marginalized people. That, I know for sure, is crazy to you.
I’m sure you think this is all just “virtue signalling,” which says a lot about you.
Witness video shows Dvontaye Mitchell, 43, lying on the ground and crying for help outside the Hyatt Regency hotel as security guards pin him down with their hands and knees. Mitchell can be heard grunting and yelling apologies.
What makes people like this? What kind of disease infects their minds that makes them capable of doing this to a fellow human being? That’s not just standard racism. It’s inhuman.
A lot of time, the justification to dehumanize comes from the news media, a religious figure, or some close relationships. Treating someone like they’re subhuman is a cultural thing, and people who do it do so with the understanding that they can “get away” with it because they have safety in numbers
Psychopathy is shockingly common. Technically, only 5% of people are full-blown psychopaths, but like all brain disorders it’s a spectrum, and everyone falls somewhere on that spectrum. At least 30% of the population exhibits sub-diagnostic psychopathic traits, such as an indifference to lying or a lack of moral compunction.
What people don’t understand about psychopathy is that it presents as an indifference (or an unresponsiveness) to empirical and normative facts. That is why psychopaths just do whatever feels good (which might include tormenting others), why they might be obsessed with money or power other pleasure-oriented goals.
Geee I wonder, maybe it’s the rampant disassociation with real tangible society and social norms, increasing calls for violence by political figures/service in the military, mental health crisis, I mean…
Really just take your pick. The reality is that society is not being treated and/or seeking treatment for mental disorders and are too busy stuffing their faces with addiction of a wide variety.
We are not okay.
hotel guards
What the actual fucking fuck is wrong with your society that you need fucking hotel guards?
Hotels/inns/taverns having dedicated security is pretty universal since like always? I’m not defending what happened here in any way, but balking at the idea security guards in general feels almost hilariously naive.
Hotels/inns/taverns having dedicated security is pretty universal
Well you must live in a different universe to the rest of us then, cos I’ve never seen one in my entire life
Again, hilariously naive. “I’ve never seen one so they must not exist!”
Also I think you’re hearing ‘guard’ and thinking something adjacent to uniformed, armed police. Which is not the case. Think bouncer at a bar, not mall cops with guns.
And if you’re dismayed that society has become ‘so fucked up’ that we need security measures in places where lots of people from disparate backgrounds gather and share a roof. I’m sorry but you’ve missed the boat by a few thousand years.
Hmmm maybe in America?
In Canada I can’t remember the last (or first) time I saw a rent a cop in a hotel
Nope, everywhere, even Canada. These job listings took seconds to find, https://careers.rosewoodhotelgroup.com/en_US/careers/FolderDetail/Canada-Security-Officer/3417#
When I visited your country, every hotel had them. Except for one pretentious shite (who asked the father of a very clearly choking little girl to go outside so she wouldn’t chud on the carpet, the father looked ready to throw a fist at his face, and, honestly, I would have joined), they were all quite friendly. Real chaps.
We don’t take care of people with mental health problems, or the homeless, or make sure people can have a living wage so there’s all kinds of reasons you might need security in a place like that. Especially if it’s in a city where more people with those problems are in closer proximity. Security shouldn’t be killing people though.
I always want to know the “why” behind these things, not because I think the victim deserved it, but because it pretty much always shows how disgustingly petty these people are. They’ll kill somebody over a gotdamn dollar just because the person wounded their pride.
