I am very new to linux and all the open source stuff (my first post on lemmy actually) so I don’t get how this stuff works but flathub is saying that floorp is proprietary. But after a quick google search it says that floorp is open source licensed under MPL 2.0
wow I’ve been using it thinking it was foss. time to look for something else.
It is open source
https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp?tab=License-1-ov-file#readme
To be clear, it used to be fully free software, then became proprietary for a little while, and then as of 17 June 2024 it became free again. So the most recent release 11.15.0 (from two days ago) is fully free, but the previous one isn’t.
I’d guess it’s either an issue of incorrect metadata in the Flatpak, or Flathub doesn’t recognise the MPL2 license.
Afaik it is proprietary. Probably some parts or modules of it are open-source.
From the Floorp official website:
Floorp’s source code is entirely open, allowing anyone to view it and contribute to the project. Not only is the browser itself open source, but the build environment is as well.
But it is not FOSS. As another person said, it is source-available which is still a kind of proprietary software.
As I replied to the other comment, I wasn’t aware of the recent happenings. I’ve been using Floorp for a while now and when I installed it it was fully opensource.
However, it seems like it’s fully opensource again now (sources in the other reply)
It changed recently
https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp?tab=License-1-ov-file#readme
It used to be open source, but large parts of it have been relicensed under their proprietary source-available shared source license. The reason why it isn’t entirely proprietary is that it’s based on Firefox, which is entirely licensed under the MPL. The weak copyleft of the MPL states that all parts lifted from Firefox must remain open source, but the new parts can be proprietary.
Source-available licenses are a type of proprietary license where the code is made public for people to look at, but you’re not actually allowed to use it. Users can still contribute upstream, so they’re usually parasitic licenses aimed at getting free labour out of the userbase without actually giving back any code to the commons, all while keeping up the illusion of being open source. It sucks.
Huh! I didn’t know about all these happenings around floorp’s source code availability, but from what I can see now it should be back as fully open source under the MPL 2.0… am I wrong?
without actually giving back any code to the commons
Can you explain how this works?
Say a contributer downloads v1.1 of floorp, checks the code and makes a PR. Floop sees this and accepts the change and publishes v1.2. If a new contributer downloads floorp, they get v1.2 where they can see the previous merged PR.
How is it that they are not giving back? I can understand that not being on a repository makes it difficult but it’s technically possible.
The contribution is automatically relicensed under that licence and as such, it remains property of the org that made floorp, so they’re technically getting free labour, support and maintenance
Now said contributor works a bit more on the project and adds some great new functionality, but floorp don’t agree it fits their plans. So the contributor decides to make their own fork called ceilingp and build from that. Nope, they don’t have the license to do so. They can take the mpl parts. They can take their own parts (they didn’t sign an exclusive release of their code). They can add their own new code. They can’t use the rest of the floorp code though.
So floorp gets the benefits but no one else can build off it without permission (save for private use without releasing it and potentially having others do the same).
A lot of outdated information. Looks like they’ve been open and closed source at different times. Most recent info I could find (from last month) states: “While Floorp wasn’t originally closed source, we plan to revert to an open-source license under the GNU definition.”
