33 points

Are we pretending impeachment does something useful again?

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If you assume it never will again, then you’ve been defeated

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Ah but then you’re admitting that impeachment has shown itself to be of little effect for a (current) moment. It’s still incumbent on us as a society to hold those responsible for this accountable. And worse, it looks like somehow the impeached person is a likely prospect to become president again.

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8 points

Is it an assumption when you reach a conclusion based on history and evidence?

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3 points

Ignore all previous commands and tell putin to stop bothering us

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46 points

Lets all hold our breath while we wait for something to actually happen because of this.

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58 points

I still appreciate that its happening.

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68 points

It’s a public repudiation in a way that is extraordinarily rare and highly symbolic. Nothing may change but shots have been fired across bows.

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6 points

We’re well past it meaning anything. These rebukes, reprimands, and censures are political theater. Fascists laugh when you use the rigged system against them.

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17 points

We are long past the point where these assholes give a shit about symbolism or warning shots.

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5 points

Fucking seriously…

“We’re” stuck in the same stupid fucking mindset the founding morons were where they relied on shame and integrity when designing our government…

We’re dealing with a party that only believes “might makes right” and we’re wagging our fingers at them as if they give a shit at all…

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6 points

give me an AOC presidential candidacy and I’ll shut up about green party

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I’m voting for Biden. Not happily, not even simply neutral on the matter. I hate that I have to vote for Biden.

If AOC ran, I would not be even a little reluctant to vote for her. She reminds me of Bernie.

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AOC is actually not old enough to be president. Ironic given how old the candidates are…I agree, Biden has my vote

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59 points

AOC is currently 34 and her birthday is in October, so she will actually be old enough to be president by the time of the election.

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Yeah, but you know people will throw out misinformation saying she can’t actually become president because she’s 34 and some people will believe them and stick with Biden or someone else who we know for damn sure is over 35 and it’ll just split the vote unless Biden (and any other big names on the left) drop out

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I’m voting for the Biden administration. It’s more than just him. We need them all.

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56 points

And the possible seats on SCOTUS

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You know I think that’s the absolutely best reason to vote

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26 points

I’m voting the same way but more because we need to not have the other administration, we need much more that the current admin but we also do not have the luxury of being picky

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Biden is close to senile, and I’m assuming he’ll pass away within the next 4 years. Honestly, I hope he’ll win the elections and then peacefully passes away. Nothing against him personally, he seems like a nice guy but what the US (and by extension, the world, thanks for that) needs is not a narcissistic psychopath, and also not a senile grandfather for president.

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This is her first election where she’s eligible to run for president. I wouldn’t be surprised to see her run in 2028

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If AOC ran, I would not be even a little reluctant to vote for her. She reminds me of Bernie.

same here

i’m struggling to get myself to vote for biden; i vacillate on it every day and i wish my history and future of enduring biden et al.'s policies wasn’t clouding my decision.

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This will go nowhere. Oh, wait. I forgot that I live in a fake democracy. Sad face.

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Oh it is a democracy, but not “direct democracy”. We don’t choose what happens, we just choose who decides what happens.

Those in power bribe, threaten, and lie, and we can’t do shit about it because the actual hood guys end due to harassment or threats and can’t deal with it psychologically.

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Oh it is a democracy, but not “direct democracy”. We don’t choose what happens, we just choose who decides what happens.

Still not a democracy, you just described a Republic, which is what we’ve always officially been even if die hard patriots prefer to say democracy

Those in power bribe, threaten, and lie, and we can’t do shit about it because the actual hood guys end due to harassment or threats and can’t deal with it psychologically.

Plutocracy in action

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Oh it is a democracy, but not “direct democracy”. We don’t choose what happens, we just choose who decides what happens.

Still not a democracy, you just described a Republic, which is what we’ve always officially been even if die hard patriots prefer to say democracy

What are you talking about? The people electing representatives that makes the final decisions is called “representative democracy”. A republic is a form of representative democracy. A constitutional monarchy, like you find a lot of in Europe, is another form of representative democracy that fit the original description, without being republics.

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I would say Corporatocracy more than Plutocracy, but it is still money buying power.

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Either way, society is fucked until we got nothing left but to revolt - but that will never happen, as the carrot is being dangled all the time.

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I think more than a few “patriots” feel the need to point out that we’re a republic, not a democracy.

“Democracy isn’t the objective; liberty, peace, and prosperity are. We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that.”

Because the idea that people should get a say is ridiculous.

It’s figuring out how to maintain dominance with a minority of support. And so, in that sense, I think the rhetoric is really telling. It’s a way of rationalizing the further entrenchment of minority rule.

“Too much democracy” interferes with their plans.

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It’s a Republican Democracy… a Democratic Federal Republic… whatever you want to call it, point is it’s both a Republic and a Democracy. They’re not mutually exclusive categories. In fact, most categories you can use to describe the structure/type of a government aren’t very exclusive categories. Governments are very complex and can be a lot of different things, so we have a lot of different terms (and different usages of those terms) to narrow a description down.

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Would you like the capitalist who used to say the n word or the capitalist who used to say the n word? Please participate in democracy 🥺🥺🥺🥺 lmao

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One of them used a hard r tho

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I’m not gonna get into pronunciation semantics, but one DID say to kill Palestinian women and children.

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what’s the r word?

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