This is going to be fun watching over the next four years. LOL. You just gotta laugh.

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Okay so they’re not getting vaccinated and now they’re guzzling unpasteurised milk whilst cattle all over the US are dying of this latest bird flu?

I’m starting to think this right-wing shift might sort itself out

(Before anyone says, I know this is very bad for avoiding another pandemic which won’t care about how you vote)

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That’s what people said during Covid. The strongest dumbs still survived.

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No, we made the mistake of doing everything thing we could to make them get vaccinated.

Next time we know better.

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New ad campaign:

“You survived COVID, even though the liberals tried to get you to vaccinate. You haven’t vaccinated to this day because you have an immune system. You’re conservative and strong. So when the liberals try again with bird flu, monkey pox, or whatever animal disease they come up with next, just tell them, ‘No thank you.’” Make sure the video playing along with the words shows strong manly men - white, of course - with rugged good looks, wearing outdoorsy clothes, doing manly stuff. Guaranteed to convince a bunch of insecure conservative douchebags not to vaccinate. Again.

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That’s because the death rate for these sorts of problems is very low and at best is a very weak evolutionary pressure which won’t yield results for many generations. Additionally, the heritability of medical stupidity is very questionable.

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Nature vs nurture, as it were.

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And millions of “smarts” were so “smart” that they decided they didn’t need to vote again after 2020, and as a result, the “dumbs” are in power.

So who’s really dumb, here?

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You don’t really need the bird flu in that mix, even. Pasteurization was a huge public health win.

What next, fridges are woke nanny state inventions and real red-blooded Americans store all their food in room temperature, especially their raw milk and meat?

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Nah, fridges are convenient. That’s what makes the beer taste good!

There is a definite interest in learning older preservation techniques. I’m not sure how it lines up with political beliefs, though. For any that do, the big trick was salt - lots of salt. If they are above a certain age, it’s likely to do some damage based on the rest of our modern lifestyle.

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There are some more ways, usually involving fermentation. Us arctic types know some methods. But I get the impression rakfisk, lutefisk, hákarl, surströmming and kiviak would have caught on as exports by now if they were actually something humans in general were interested in eating, rather than the descendants of very specific kinds of desperate people.

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Well I am progressive as fuck politically and somewhat crunchy lifestyle -wise. Garden, ferment things, have made bread exclusively from sourdough for about 15 years now, really enjoy fermented foods like kimchi and pickles and sauerkraut.

The other fermenter in our family is the literal racist uncle, he makes incredible homemade foods, raised me a turkey for Thanksgiving one year, even.

Both of us came to it from a culinary background, not a political one, a way to get good food. I don’t think it maps well, but there is certainly a subset of crunchy lifestyle people who started out progressive and were coopted by the right wing.

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Stoves are convenient too, and they went after them for a month.

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Food preservation lines up very well with conservative and libertarian plans. I even know if your number of Democrats that enjoy preserving food. Dehydrating, canning, pickling or all cheap and easy. The more extremes in conservative and libertarian also seemed to like freeze drying. I have to admit I kind of like freeze drying myself but the machine is so freaking expensive and then it consumes so much power, you can literally buy commercially freeze dried food cheaper than you can make it yourself and that does not get better at any reasonable home scale.

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To be fair since Pasteur we have made enormous progress in refrigeration and supply lines, so if the cow is healthy, and the raw milk is fresh, you should be fine. The main issue is that you should treat the milk in your fridge like something that spoils quickly (like fish), rather than something that can stay in the fridge safely for a week or two. Of course if the cow is sick none of this applies, so it has to come from a trusted source.

TLDR; raw milk can be okay if you are taking far more precautions than you normally would with milk.

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Not using dented / bulging cans is a conspiracy.

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Call it evolution in action.

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Darwinism goes hard when it benefits the left

EDIT: Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing

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We need to tell them about the health benefits of Jonestown Koolaid.

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political beliefs aren’t genetic. Nazis tries to exterminate every communist and it didn’t work.

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It’s obvious why they’re suddenly obsessed with Raw Milk. It’s the same reason they were suddenly Anti-Vax, anti-Mask, and anti-plague-control.

Democrats said a thing, Republicans immediately reply with the opposite.

Democrats said Vaccines prevent disease, Republicans declared vaccines are poison. Democrats said wearing a mask can reduce the transmission of airborne pathogens, Republicans said masks will kill you and are illegal now. Democrats said “Don’t drink raw milk, it can transmit deadly diseases.” Republicans declare “You can take the raw milk from my cold dead hands.”

I honestly expect that if Democrats released a PSA against jumping off cliffs onto jagged rocks, because the fall could be dangerous, Republicans would immediately start taking picture standing on the edges of cliffs with the caption of “Don’t tell me what to do.”

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42 points

Imagine being so vapid that the extent of your understanding of the world boils down to just being contrarian.

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It’s much easier than thinking.

Don’t get involved with people who enthusiastically shit on others’ ideas, while having none of their own. Can’t count how many times I’ve countered a complaint with “Ok, what would you do?” only to be met with those empty eyes that tell you there’s nothing happening behind them.

Some people just think conversation is defined as bitching.

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I feel like most of the time they don’t even know the actual implications of what they’re saying, but are simply repeating the thing that they heard on the radio or Fox News. All they know is that the Democrats don’t like whatever it is, and that’s all that matters to them.

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Humans are famously garbage at comprehending statistics, and most Darwin Award winning conservative behaviors are born of it.

Take any mundane thing that was part of a status quo of a previous era in recent memory. Anything at all. Research comes out suggesting that thing has a small, but non-negligible risk to be quite harmful. So we collectively shift to a new behavior that tries to eliminate the risk. A shift that, in most sane and civil peoples’ opinions, is so unobtrusively small that any theoretical benefit we’re trading away is probably well worth the risk elimination.

But oh, a certain group of people will bitch and moan and scream and piss all over themselves in rage over how you dared to take away something so integral to their culture and lifestyle! The risk aversion is never worth the vain fringe benefit of whatever perceived quality was lost because the risk is completely invisible until it actually hits them personally.

Milk used to taste so great! God’s gift to the world! Then we all started boiling it and now it tastes worse! And for what? Because a couple of weak-bodied cosmic lottery losers were getting a few tummy aches? The vast majority of us are all suffering over nothing! Life was so much better when we weren’t all scared of things that won’t happen! We did it for millennia and we turned out just fine!

Then you point out all the people actually getting hospitalized from pathogens in raw milk, the very thing we were trying to avoid in the first place, and if they even believe you at all they simply consider it an acceptable price to pay. Better to live in a rich and interesting society where you’re free to risk harming yourself and others than a milquetoast one where imperceptible threats have been preemptively eliminated at great cost.

And then they turn around and work to ban books that mention trans people or ban porn websites to save the children or some other dumb shit.

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Yeah back in the 2000s my permaculture/crunchy granola/woo woo/socially conservative/Catholic friend liked raw milk because of the health benefits, live cultures, etc., and believed that it was worth the risk that someone, somewhere, might get sick. But he’d be ok though because he knew and trusted His Farm.

I didn’t agree with him but I was tempted.

Imo if something can’t be regulated to within acceptable risk, it’s probably too dangerous.

That’s why Alex Honnold can go free solo a cliff because he’s only risking himself and his family’s future without him, but selling raw milk puts a lot more people at risk.

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I would. My Dad grew up on a dairy farm and drank milk out of the cow that morning - if I see upon a farm, I’d certainly try it

Just like on a veggie farm (IPM, no pesticides) I tried carrots out of the ground, flowers off the stem, berries off the bush. It’s a really neat experience.

However I’d never make a habit out of it, nor try it when it’s not absolute fresh and I knew what was on it. The odds are ok if you do it once under known conditions, but like any other gambling, the house always wins

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I said it a million times, if Obama simply came out in favor of lowering the minimum wage then we’d all have six figure salaries.

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I mean, we could at least try releasing that PSA.

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Maybe take baby steps first, like “you should never cross a street with heavy traffic”, “looking down the barrel of your gun is too dangerous” and “eating poop is nasty”

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You forgot the one about gas stoves in homes.

To be fair, there are so many examples of this lately, it’s impossible to keep track of them all.

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Gullible fucks. How many of them would die if they were told that they can boost their immunity by sticking their house keys in a power outlet.

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But the lamestream media says not to do it! That means they’re hiding the secret to cleansing out the 5g nanoRNA or some shit.

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“Would an apartment key work, or do you have to own a house?”

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It is a non-zero number, you can be sure of that.

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9 points

bleach

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Electrons are the purest substance known to humanity! How are you going to tell me allowing 15 amps of the purest substance known to flow through my body is a bad thing!?

Stupid liberals don’t even understand electronomy!

:P

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It’s because the gubmint told them they can’t have it and, like petulant children, they just wanna do what they’ve been told they shouldn’t.

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You know what? We should probably deny vaccinations, unions, and “love thy neighbor”… The world would be a better place

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This is exactly it for the vast majority of them. And there’s a minority that have been duped into believing there are legitimate benefits.

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Wait till they outlaw/regulate eating unpasteurized cheese in the US…

Oh wait.

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It’s not illegal to eat it. It’s illegal to sell it.

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41 points

Let them drink milk.

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Problem is, it won’t just affect them. Tuberculosis can spread just fine.

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TB isn’t too bad it’s that Micah you’ve got to watch out for.

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Fuck Micah! That boy never did Dutch any good.

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By the gallon.

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