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Say what you can about communism, but you clearly see that capitalism is so much worse.

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Communism lifted an illiterate nation of serfs into an industrial and atomic super power in, like, 50 years.

Which is to say just as bad as capitalism but approximately four times faster.

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I don’t think any of the nations who call themselves “communists” can actually be considered communist. Hell, most of them are pretty much dictatorships, which is the farthest you can get from communism.

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If were gonna start arguing semantics though, then what is pure capitalism? As even the US has limits on what capitalist shenanigans they draw the lines on. Ie policies like antitrust laws, which are explicitly to prevent monopolies, because while capitalism strive for monopolies, monopolies also usually kill the market so…

The answer is obviously socialism when defined as the government owning or regulating the means of production, meaning just regulation is enough no need to own them.

Communism doesn’t work yet because we can’t seem to plan resources use for large economies as efficiently as organic markets do it.

But unregulated markets just destroy themselves, end up overexpensive enshittified adfests trying to push subpar products to you that won’t last you even the walk home.

Capitalism is like the cancerous form of market economies.

And communism has historically been about as healthy as the vegan diet of a nutritionally uninformed anemic teenager. Its not bad as an idea, but market economies just work better when they’re properly regulated.

I’d definitely argue with you that countries like China aren’t actually communist.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/capitalism-with-chinese-characteristics/CECD36DB2C3623DEE4670F7897BAA3CB

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It was also responsible for the highly anti-intellectual culture that existed and still continues in said country today. So it swings both ways.

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Anti-intellectual cultire fixated on higher education? I’m not saying that we don’t have collective mental disorders. Maybe during Stalin(see Doctors’ Case, cybernetics and genetics), but generally no.

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But was it communism? Or was it labour camps and dictatorship?

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They’re the same picture.

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Heard someone say that their grandparents who left the USSR during the collapse in the early 90’s told them something along the lines of “not everything the Soviet government promised us about communism was true, but everything they told us about capitalism is true.”

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Yes, USSR became a superpower where most areas were without toilets…

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They’re still without toilets under capitalism.

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Okay, move to Cuba or North Korea where they still try to pursue communism and where they still have not realized how broken system it is. You will surely enjoy life there :D

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Cuba seems like a decent place to live tbh, especially given the circumstances that we’ve imposed on them.

They have some of the best healthcare and doctors in the world.

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Cuba is very much a surveillance state, otherwise I believe the main drawbacks are due to oppressive sanctions.

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You think North Korea’s godking is the accurate administration of communism…?

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So far every “attempt” at communism has resulted in some form of dictator, so it’s not surprising that the idea of communism leaves a sour taste for a lot of people.

It really doesn’t help that there are communities that look at the Russian outcome of communism and claim that was a good result.

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lol and I say this as someone who grew up in Soviet occupied eastern europe. Trust me, there are very few systems worse than communism, well at least, that version of it.

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Free medicine is nice, though. Not very high quality sometimes, but still better, than bankruptcy after ambulance ride.

Free high school education is a good option too.

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Will you develop medicine for free? Will you do 8+ hour long surgeries for free? Will you teach children at school for free?

Nothing is free, buddy. If sth appears to be free, it’s only because someone sponsors it.

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Judges don’t have conflicts of interest in communism?

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They don’t have additional benefits of owning insurance company everyone else doesn’t. And neither there would be insurance companies anyway.

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Former healthcare exec != Owner

But let’s imagine it did, and there are no owners. Lower stakes don’t correspond to lower conflicts.

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Yeah, clearly the problem are the suspects and not the system that has “justice” be dispensed by crooks.

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The smart black never disobeys the race segregation.

The smart slave never disobeys his master.

The smart peasant never disobeys his lord.

The smart Israelite never disobeys the Pharaoh…

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Yeah you still have time to delete this buddy

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Meaning what, exactly?

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“Just lay down and let bad things happen forever, it’s better to let a million people die than shoot a single villain.”

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I’m going to nitpick here. The main reference for this Yahoo/daily Beast article is OP. That’s not corroborating.

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Honestly the data in the article is the reference so yeah

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Yes, but they add context to the source so you don’t have to trust that the blog is reputable. Secondary source.

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Interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting.

I need the bootlickers to show up and tell me it’s just coincidence.

The whole damn thing is a show. They are terrified. The book they usually play by isn’t working. What will happen? The amount of support Luigi has is astounding. It’s even a topic I tested the waters with at work and these people I work with make a decent living.

America is waking up. I feel it.

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I genuinely think that they’ll have a hard time finding an impartial jury… I think that at this point, pretty much anyone who doesn’t live under a rock has heard of him and has an opinion on whether he should be found guilty.

Regardless of which way you fall on that particular topic, you’re biased, and that would exclude you from serving on the jury.

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The 65+ crowd view him unfavorably, so I expect the jury to be a bunch of 65+ people

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An unfavorable view is still bias. The defense would reject any juror that shows significant malice towards the plaintiff.

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I’ve spoken with friends about this is Denmark, and we all read the news with great pleasure.

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I thought the same thing about the Trump trial, but they legitimately turned over rocks and found the most oblivious Americans living under them. There are evidently tons of people out there living in their own little bubble, completely untethered from the news media or even just casual conversations with strangers and probably have no idea who Luigi is right now. The news might not be able to reach them, but a jury summons from the state can, and the prosecution is going to hunt for these individuals specifically.

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Correct. And I strongly suspect they are wildly pumping out news about him to narrow the juror pool to people who do live under rocks.

The other option is that jurors lie about their bias, which opens them up for legal consequences.

His defense, in any case, has a very difficult task - they need to be able to somehow communicate him being innocent against stacked charges OR paint him light that the rest of us see that leans them towards Jury Nullification.

My hope is that potential jurors hide their bias, which isn’t easy, but gives him the best chance.

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The other option is that jurors lie about their bias, which opens them up for legal consequences.

That’s almost impossible to prove, and almost never prosecuted.

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If they can find an “unbiased” jury, then the defense does indeed have a difficult challenge ahead. Even if the prosecution fails with their terrorism charge, they can fall back on murder 2, which is much harder to defend against.

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