The whole idea that it violates the terms of service of a company to not let them show things on my screen without my consent is insane. It’s like if every time you went to the grocery store, the employees held you down and force fed you a free sample, then banned you from the store when you started running away from them.
It’s not that bizarre. They don’t have to serve you the content without showing you the ads that make the platform profitable. The freedom goes both ways. I use an ad blocker too, but I don’t think that YouTube is really doing anything wrong here. (Other than possibly ruining their own platform, but that’s their problem that they’re making for themselves.)
If they weren’t a monopoly, I’d agree, they can do whatever they want.
But since they are a monopoly, its a de facto the equivalent of a town square, and they are policing people’s speech, and broadcasting annoying public announcements that nobody wants to hear.
I hate the way they‘re doing it and how they push their silly premium subscription in my face whenever I open the app to look something up quick. Adblock all the way. But you‘re right. They have to make money somehow. They‘re a corporation after all. It‘s naive to think they will ever give up.
Exactly, it’s absolutely absurd.
Think we ought to just start harassing marketers and anyone involved with advertising.
The whole idea that it violates the terms of service of a company to not let them show things on my screen without my consent is insane.
Something something contract of adhesion something something. It is functionally a term of service to watch the whole body of content as a condition of watching any of it.
It’s like if every time you went to the grocery store, the employees held you down and force fed you a free sample, then banned you from the store when you started running away from them.
This effectively used to be how people would sell Time Share rentals. You would “win” a “free vacation” to a destination that hosted the time share. Then, in order to check in you needed to sit through a sales pitch that only ended when you agreed to purchase the unit you’d allegedly been awarded as a prize.
If you tried to leave the sales pitch prematurely, you were ejected from the venue.
I’m imagining a future where you’re not allowed to mute broadcast commercials
There’s a very simple solution to this, and I’m honestly not quite sure why no one is doing it.
Make ads voluntary. Make them separate from the rest of the experience.
Make it so that you can watch ads and answer surveys based off of the ads in order to get credits which then allow you to watch videos.
Alternatively, make it so that you can purchase the credits out right.
Everyone fucking wins.
I don’t know why people are so stupid as to not even contemplate the easiest and most satisfying solution to all of the problems.
But the venn diagram of the group of people who take voluntary surveys and the group you want to advertise to have no overlap.
The problem with ads is that we’re barely removed from the era of all ads being malicious trojans if you clicked one. All ads are still malicious, just less insidious. They’ll silo you off into an echo chamber rather than brick your computer. Some will still brick your computer though.
I block ads because I don’t want to see ads, but I don’t want to see ads because I don’t trust any of them. Until they fix that, they’ll stay blocked. I don’t care if you’re Google or some boutique website, I’ll block them all.
Well I guess I’ll be mozying over to Rumble now.
20 minutes later
Turns out Jews are aliens directing the Democratic Party and Hollywood to sacrifice babies for adrenochrome. Why is the lamestream media not talking about this???
Lol.
There’s some decent content if you look. I like Glenn Greenwald, and I sub to NBTV and Mental Outlaw on Odyssey. There’s a lot of nonsense on all platforms, but if you’re careful, you may find some decent stuff there. I wish more YouTubers would re-upload on other platforms, but I guess that’s asking too much…
right wing: “JEWS ARE EVIL”
Also, right wing: “Jews in Israel are fighting a rightious war against evil Gazans”
🤨
Imagine being Jewish and on either side people hate you.
Right wing: Jews are behind everything
Left wing: Jews are zionists and zionists are Nazis because Israel.
I don’t think left wing people are hating on Jewish people, except maybe those crazy “Marxist-Leninist” types. Not all Jewish people are pro-Natanyahu, in fact, many are probably against Netanyahu.
It all becomes clear once you understand that the Jews returning to Israel is a precondition for the Christian apocalypse. Christofascists don’t give a flying fuck about the Jews; they support Israel as a country (and Zionism in particular) for the entirely ghoulishly selfish reason that they wanna get ‘raptured.’
And you both are oversimplifying by putting the christian zionist nutjobs within the same basket with the vast array of other nutjobs and assume that they are all the same.
Well, the Jewish Jews are the LORD’s chosen, underdogs who are bravely soldiering the storm, but the American Jews are communist Satan worshippers who’ve sold their souls for control of the world. They’ve been battling for millenia to control the space lasers.
Also, now that I’ve imagined it, there’s both porn and a Manga of it.
Also a ‘I hate you but, you build a nice ethnostate that I want to adapt over where I live.’
God I was looking for peertube apps and rumble was advertised in the app store. Boy did I have a surprise when I scrolled through the most subscribed list
Yeah, don’t do that. The most popular content on YouTube isn’t bad in the same way it is on Rumble/Odyssey, but in general, it’s filled with clickbait/rage bait and is generally pretty awful. It’s going to be especially awful on Rumble and Odyssey because it’s a refuge for people who didn’t like YouTube’s policies, so it’s going to largely be conspiracy theorists and far right nonsense.
That said, there’s some good on every platform. On Rumble, I like Glenn Greenwald, who is a right of center independent journalist who lives in Brazil (also gay, but that’s irrelevant). On Odyssey, I like Mental Outlaw (covers hacks, leaks, and privacy related news) and Naomi Brockwell (privacy advocacy). I don’t have an account at either, largely because those platforms are full of trash, I just sub through Grayjay so I don’t see that nonsense.
I wish a credible alternative existed, but for now, I’ll hedge a bit with other platforms.
I remember, pre-wikileaks, when Glen Greenwald was left of center. Or at least that was my perspective at the time.
Get a cheap (Argentina, Egypt, Ghana, India, Ecuador) premium… There are dozens of instructions on how to get it through a VPN.
Pretty sure this doesn’t work anymore. They stopped it a few months back.
It works for me! I have a german account with YouTube family prem sub through Peru.
Wait yt premium has different rates in different countries? Anyway hosting a free to use service like youtube cost a ton in storage and bandwidth, contrary to nebula. I would rather support it as it doesn’t do DRM and other too much user hostile stuffs (I’m using free software clients for long time, no issue. I’ll continue after premium too as official client isn’t that good). But ofc first I would like to know actual budget and ad money cash flow to see if it needs help really or just a marketing tactic to pump up revenue in typical corporate fashion.
Anybody has such income-expense data source for youtube?
Looks like google needs more broken up!
