It’s really very simple:
On one side, there’s integrity and convictions and serving the interests of the American people.
And on the other side, there’s a handful of corporations and wealthy individuals who will give them money in exchange for protecting their privilege.
And the Democrats have chosen the money
As have the republicans. So now there are no political options for addressing the material concerns of the working class.
BOLD MOVE COTTON
At least it’s on-brand for R. D still tries to pretend otherwise.
So now there are no political options for addressing the material concerns of the working class.
BOLD MOVE COTTON
Good point, that didn’t go well last time did it? Those who forget history…
Looks like our politicians are going to be doomed to repeat it.
The issue is that besides money, and thanks to it, power (military, police, etc.) is much more concentrated in the hands of the rich than before, in my view.
Oh there are options. We just have to add a little checkbox beneath A or B ourselves. After all, revisions exist for a reason.
And the Democrats have chosen the money
and we will vote for them anyways in 2028
No, no, not all of us will.
I’m done with them. I’ll either find a party or individual I can support in each seat, or I’ll stay the fuck home. Not wasting my fucking time if I can’t find someone that actually aligns with my views any more. Those circles will just stay blank, and I’ll only vote in local elections, and even that only if I actually support the candidate.
Soap and ballot boxes have failed too hard.
Not wasting my fucking time if I can’t find someone that actually aligns with my views any more.
As the DNC is unlikely to ever allow that, and with no sign of approval voting ever being implemented to break the 2 party death grip, it would seem that the only option left is solving problems ourselves collectively with mutual aid and direct action, without waiting for the DNC to purge itself of corpos.
… I’ll either find a party or individual I can support in each seat, or I’ll stay the fuck home…
that’s why harris lost the election.
americans refuse to read and that results in this charade of a democratic system that requires us to vote democrat or republican; they will call you a fool for not playing along or actively standing up for your principals like a 3rd party vote.
like the abolitionists and suffragettes; it’s going to take a generations long cultural shift for things to improve and i think that the biggest indicator is when people start to prefer reading over watching tv.
Honestly, Pelosi has been a non-stop blight. It’s time to cut out the cancer, here.
I’m not sure USA politics can be solved by replacing individuals. Seems to be an institutional issue
Let’s start with people and see what changes. “Institutional issue” is often a product of just a handful of people. Remove the entrenched old money Dems and watch progressives flood the party.
The left is now “business focused” and the right is “money focused” with no room for the problems of us normal people. If CEO and business are determined to set a line between us and them, then “us” will unite to become"we" and they don’t that. Let’s get rid of the people who are a problem and use the organization they use to promote those who care about other people.
The institutional part of it is WHY it’s difficult/impossible to get rid of the corporate politicians. You can say we should vote out x or we should support y policy, but it doesn’t really matter if the entire electoral system is set up to stop that from happening.
I think we need to sacrifice a few more CEOs to the money gods just to test this theory. For science.
Its a voter issue.
Dem voters suffer from this delusion that because they are more educated, think up clever names for Trump supporters, post screenshots of conservatives getting roasted on Twitter and pointing out all the logical fallacies in republican policies that they are winning.
Trumps voters can be functionally illiterate, effectively retarded and possibly inbred but they cared enough to VOTE. Its literally the only thing that matters. You can have 6 Phds and are literally never wrong about anything but that vote only counts as much as Cletus McGee who has never left Deer tick creek Alabama his whole life. They actually know how to win an election, they turn the fuck up.
I’m one of those people who spent a lot of time cheer-leading the Democratic party and the Harris campaign before the election. I still think it was the right thing to do given the alternative. AND I still think that anyone who stayed home or voted for Trump is a moron. But now that the worst possible thing has come to pass and we’re gonna have to spend the next couple of decades dealing with the consequences anyway: Fuck the Democrats. I’m done.
Fuck the Democrats. I’m done.
the only thing that matters to them is that you vote for them in 2028 and people will be calling you a moron for not falling in line.
Newsom isn’t the worst option but that’s not saying much. He’s basically a neocon in mildly progressive clothing when it’s convenient for him. But Republicans have spent years vilifying him and disparaging California as some kind of socialist haven (I wish)… meaning he pretty much doesn’t stand a chance. But I’m certain he will run.
Newsom, Blinken, Shapiro, or Harris again. I bet they’ll try to ram Blinken down our throats.
Failing to cultivate younger politicians is exactly why people are disillusioned with the party, and why they had to keep running Biden in the first place. SMH
When the right wing voters didn’t like what their elected leader were doing, they primaried them with more ideologically pure leaders.
Left wing voters just bitch and moan but take no action proving that some of the qualities the right claims of the left, like being lazy and entitled are true.
The primary every congressional district has. The right ran some crazy fucks against some well established right wing politicians so where is the left’s version of this.
Everyone hung up on the presidential primary is failing to heed our own advice to the people who vote for a third party as a protest against the Democratic Party.
Primaries are internal party elections that determine what candidate a party will support for presidency. In US generally speaking the Democratic Party primaries are open or semi-open, so every voter can participate.
For example, in lasr Dem primaries approximately 10 million people vited for Bernie Sanders, 2 for Elisabeth Warren, and 20 for Biden, which amounts to less than 20% of registered voters.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with multiple billionaire backers like Trump and Thiel pushing their candidates.
Must just be that the left doesn’t care in comparison.
The billionaire backers came after the crazies won against right wing encumbrants.
When the right wing voters didn’t like what their elected leader were doing, they primaried them with more ideologically pure leaders.
I’ve been thinking the same thing. The current form of the Republican party that is MAGA is clearly influenced by the Tea Party movement. The Wikipedia entry say the movement dissolved and doesn’t say what legacy it left. But in hindsight, it is clear that it made the Republican party evolve into MAGA that it is today.
The Democratic Party should have its own MAGA movement but from the left. The American left only seem to be animated if the candidate or leader is deemed progressive enough. They don’t seem to actively try to influence the Democratic Party themselves unlike what the right did to the Republican Party.
The tea party was astroturfed. There’s no wealthy PACs propping up a movement of soc dems like AOC
I don’t know. It’s not directed at you but I think anyone who disagrees with a movement would always find ways and angles to smear it.
Nonetheless, many of what had been advocated by the Tea Party movement-- both social and economic policies-- are still visibly present and implemented by MAGA. So I think even with astroturfing, the goals of those involved in Tea Party had their way.
Growing up with these movements, it felt like the Occupy Movement could have been that, but it was smeared by The Powers That Be alongside infighting or a focus on strange parliamentary procedure. It helps with cops also are on your side (Tea Party).
I don’t think the left makes enough persistent noise at their leadership compared to the right. I’m really proud of the recent strike announcements from Unions & hope they stick through the tough shit.
I volunteer in municipal work on a town board local to me. It’s not much, but there’s a few chuckleheads “from the private sector” that think they know everything in five minutes. If you put hard facts and actually argue them in proper settings with conviction, you can at least have a voice in the bullshit around you.
What I find hilarious is that every “progressive” leader that does make their way in ends up being a Republican/Russian puppet. (See Sinema/Fetterman).
Proves horseshoe theory is real. The DNC doesn’t care about you guys because you’ve shown you don’t care about the DNC. Bitch all you want but why should they try to pursue lazy kids who bitch and moan but don’t vote when it counts or protest vote.
That’s why the DNC drives further right because at least that voting base actually consistently votes.
Have Republicans ever had any primary corruption controversies, like that whole superdelegates thing?
I’m not sure where you’re going with a thus since I’m referring to primary if congressional leaders and you’re hung up on the presidency, another weird thing we only do on that left.
The right did have a candidate that refused to participate in their party’s debates and threatened the party’s leaders so there is something there but it’s not a fair comparison since the left isn’t good at authoritarian demagoguery.
