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Alright, where are the anti capitalist tankies defending this?

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You do realize that all nations ration as necessary right?

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Here in the USA I can buy whatever I want, even if it’s bad for everyone.

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Complaining about them when they aren’t here. See? They’re everywhere!

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This has little to do with socialism/capitalism and more with that fact that the economy was centrally (terribly) governed and most of the products were exported to the “friend nation USSR”

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Comunimsm is not that bad! It only has a 100% failure rate, but that’s the CIA/UFO/Soros fault!

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21 points

Reminder you live in a country where you have to pay other people to deny you healthcare.

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Ussr never fully recovered after ww2 and had to engage in a very expensive arms race while attempting to rebuild. Imo saying that communism doesn’t work often forgets this fact.

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75% of sugar output exported to the Sovs while the citizens of Poland ‘enjoyed’ sugar rationing.

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75% of sugar output exported to moscow and leningrad, you think the people of anywhere outside the immediate vicinity of those two cities got to see any of it? Let alone anywhere east of the Urals?

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They are in the same place where pro-capitalist liberals are when people talk about food insecurity in today’s West, and let’s face it, the rest of the non-Western world.

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I can and do live very well off less than that.

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There goes the sweets! Now she’s even more annoyed!

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This thread is basically:

Scarcity in socialist countries 40 years ago: pearl clutching.

Scarcity in capitalist countries fucking now: yawn.

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Bruh, you can buy more flour than that with change dropped in a fucking parking lot.

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Good so we got flour figured out. How many homeless people did Poland have in the 1980s? How many does it have now?

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Good so we got flour figured out. How many homeless people did Poland have in the 1980s?

Uncertain, because like the Soviet Union, homelessness was illegal and official stats weren’t kept. Nevertheless, ‘vagrancy’ was a serious and recurring problem in Warsaw Pact states.

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They can. And how many people have to live under bridges to allow for that?

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How many had to live on park benches and prison camps in Warsaw Pact states to allow for their ‘generous’ rationing?

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Unpopular opinion: we need to ration electricity consumption as well as fuel today, even in capitalists countries. Because that stuff actually has incredible impact on the planet, and will (must) drive consumption down, so that companies / individuals start integrating “efficiency” into their thinking

I don’t see any other solution to the “exponentially growing power consumption” problem.

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Pigouvian taxes are a traditional solution to negative externalities, and they are often better received by the public than rationing.

  • It’s expensive to be poor - the lights turning off a few days before the end of the month will incur even more costs than a higher electricity bill.

  • Taxes raise money for other programs, instead of costing money to enforce rationing.

  • Higher taxes in general will also help reduce inflation.

  • Tax revenue can be spent on stimulus checks to offset the cost for people who use less energy than average.

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Rather than stimulus checks we need to be using the money to subsidize alternatives. And we can just switch subsidies. Some examples of that include that by reducing cattle subsides we can subsidize lower emissions meat alternatives or even offer free classes on how to cook meals that happen to be lower emissions, and we can stop funding airports and put that money into rail systems, similarly by removing mandatory minimum parking and reducing road funding that money can be put into transit solutions that enable less car centric lifestyles.

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I don’t see any other solution to the “exponentially growing power consumption” problem.

In the U.S., at least, power generation has been roughly flat for the last 20 years, not growing exponentially:

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electricity is only a tiny fraction of energy use.

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Power usage levels in the US, though, are insane compared to mother countries.

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I’m surprised by how much natural gas makes up the mix.

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That’s excluding our hard on for AI the last few years. Would love to see this updated.

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c/selfhosted has entered the chat

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Power for the power god

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time to self-host a powerplant?

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Reminds me of the leftist venezuelan regime monthly rations in the form of cajas clap.

Absolutely disgusting food.

Thank goodness I was able to escape the dictatorship with my family

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That catsup can go 2 ways. Ketchup or Cat Soup

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Thank you for posting this. I don’t understand what a lot of those foods are. It looks like a heck of a lot of it is pasta/noodles based though. And maybe milk powder? Where is the protein other than the canned tuna(?) up at the top.

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That was it. No more than that. Worst thing is that almost all this products are from Mexico. Before the collectivists and leftists took power in Venezuela, we used to make all these products

Left to right

4 blue pasta packages, 200 grams each

4 green rice packages, 1 kg

4 yellow spaghetti packs. 200 grams each

6 shredded tuna cans. 130 grams each

1 oil bottle. 1 liter

2 red bottles, tomato sauce/ketchup. 220 grams each

2 orange packs, corn flour, 1kg each

1 pack of refined sugar, 1kg

1 white pack, dry whole milk, 500 grams

2 green packs, black beans, 1kg each

3 yellow packs, egg spaghetti, 290 grams each

3 red packs, elbow shaped spaghetti , 200 grams each

1 blue pack, lentils, 1 kg

Take into account that this is supposed to last a family of 4 a month. If it ever arrives.

Because it’s assigned per family

Also, as most of these products are from Mexico, the transportation is not the best and most of the time they arrive corroded, open by rats, or with less or very different products than advertised

So yeah I’m glad I escaped the collectivistic hellhole with my family mostly intact

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Thank you for answering, this is very eye opening. In Canada we get a similar amount of food at our volunteer based food banks that is supposed to last a month but lasts a few days, but it’s different in the type of product. And it would never be given to us in a state that was degraded or torn into by pests.

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Wow, I see the sugar industry was as influential there as it was in America.

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