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Does the UK have anti-smoking or anti-vaping campaigns, or did they ever? That seems like a lot of people are vaping.

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Smoking yes, the UK has the 2nd lowest rate of smoking in the EU (+UK obviously). There hasnt been any significant anti-vaping campaign I’m aware of, because there is a tension that despite it being bad for you its nowhere near as bad as smoking, so getting people off tobacco and onto vapes is a net benefit. Though there does seem to be a growing consensus that vapes have been too permissively regulated thus far and to righten rules around selling them.

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Honestly, vapes are so new, disposable ones should never have been legalised.

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These vapes been around for 20+ years, they have just become trendier now, maybe because they got smaller

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Not single use ones.

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That’s what I said below

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16 points

We knew about the environment and recycling 20 years ago…

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Only thing that changed is production started of single use, China is pumping these things out and everyone is eating them up as grey/black market imports

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Humans are so stupid

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I think we’re bad at choosing things that are inconvenient if the risk is abstract, but not necessarily stupid per se

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As far as I know despite being a single-use item, these vapes mostly contain rechargable battery cells of type 18650. Even though they are probably rather cheap and low quality cells, they still have around 2300 mAh at 3.6 V current. This gives us 8250 mWh per cell. One million of them would be 8250 kWh, enough for 100-200 electric cars. Every day. In a full year that’s 3011250 kWh or around 3 gigawatt hours of storage capacity.

3 gigawatt hours is the capacity of the number 1 biggest battery-based energy storage system in the world: https://www.energy-storage.news/moss-landing-worlds-biggest-battery-storage-project-is-now-3gwh-capacity/

Tossed in the trash. Only from single use vapes. Every year. And only in the UK.

I hope there’s no major flaw in my calculation but if it’s not, that’s really a crazy figure.

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The batteries on most of those cheap disposables are essentially done for by the time the juice runs out.

By day 7 a full charge gets maybe 20-30 puffs.

Without these products the market probably wouldn’t be as flooded with cheap rechargeable batteries that only last about 10 days.

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6 points

These batteries are free! You can just take them!

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I used to give my empty ones to my niece’s bf, he rips them apart and makes shit with them.

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I had an ex who collected them, wired them together and now uses the bundle to power an electric bus. It’s crazy that it just goes in the trash.

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Most single use contain lithium polymer packs, not 18650s, but yes

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1000% this. 18650s are used in regular vapes, and they are definitely not cheap to be used in disposables.

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The UK has a population of just over 69 million.

These numbers are legitimately mind-boggling, I’m having a hard time believing it:

Thirteen vapes are discarded every second in the UK, adding up to more than a million each day.

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