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To be clear, universal healthcare is slowly failing in the UK

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Because conservatives are deliberately sabotaging it.

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And healthcare is an utter disaster in the US, your argument holds zero merit

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It really isn’t. It was being undermined by political powers who wanted to line their own pockets with a private system.

The Tory playbook is to underfund and sabotage public interest so they can claim it doesn’t work without private ownership.

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we’ll see what Starmer does. So far his gestures have sounded promising, but you never know

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You just aggressively agreed with my statement while stating you disagreed at the beginning.

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saying somethins is being sabotaged isnt the same as saying it is failing. The sabotage must be successful for it to fail.

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No, your statement was indicating that universal healthcare was failing. It isn’t and has been successful in the UK for over 70 years.

When you say universal healthcare in the UK is failing with no additional context you are using the conservative rhetoric, which is damaging.

It’s like if you failed an exam because your class funding was cut to only give teachers half as much time to teach, then you claimed that education doesn’t work.

If we agree with each other on the broader points, then that’s great.

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By design of the ruling parties, not because universal healthcare is impossible

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One could argue ruling parties reducing funding for universal healthcare (reduction of giving to the poor) is inevitable.

#lateStageCapitalism

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Even Russia figured this out.

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Hurrr healthcare is communism! Can’t have that in muh country gun shot noises

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Just so you know, a majority of Canadians want to either try or adopt the US system

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The majority of Canadians, or the majority if Canadian politicians?

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You need extensive therapy

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That first link says that most people want the government to pay a lot more… That doesn’t really seem like “we want the US system”

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I’ll gladly swap citizenship with any Canadian! Come and claim your coverage by our wonderful privatized healthcare system! No take backsies

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Idiots are everywhere on this shithole of a planet

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The Canadian system broke due to abuse by some types of immigrants, failure to attract and keep docters and nurses, and the never ending greener pasture to the south that offers doctors a more attractive and better paying lifestyle than Canada

the Canadian system is broken because we have to share a border with America. It wasn’t the abject horror until the doctors and nurses quit from the covid days, and we flooded a bunch of bad Immigrants in who had no interest in doing anything but abusing the country for all they could cash out on.

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I love that the blame has to be pushed onto immigrants who pay the same taxes we all do. Who receive the same socialised benefits we do.

Rather than blame the government rats that have been siphoning cash away from public infrastructure for decades. Have you taken a look at Doug Ford or Danielle Smith? Have you listened to Pierre Pollievre talk his dogshit plans for privatisation in Canada?

Why come so close to hitting the mark only to blame it on immigrants that only serve to strengthen the system if they too weren’t taken advantage of by parliamentary ghouls.

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it’s not the driving factor. but merely the ugly truth about an overlooked issue thats flown under the radar with this whole thing.

to clarify, when Im talking about “bad immigrants abusing the system” I’m talking about people who come here on a fake student visa or otherwise scammed their way in, Obtained a PR, also scammed under the same student visa path they took . and then scheming to get multiple family members brought over to join them under the family reunification path, and all of a sudden one person turns into 18 people . they come over, have zero interest in integrating, they just want to milk the land for what they can get, one of them being everyone utilizing the healthcare system for expensive services they wouldn’t otherwise get at home.

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“GUNS AND PEOPLE WHO BREED” ?

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Canada has free health care but it doesn’t exist anymore lol. Good luck seeing a doctor even when you’re dying

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Could be worse. You could be an American where you spend an exorbitant I amount of money on private insurance AND you spend even more money on out-of-pocket costs that insurance won’t cover AND it takes months to get an appointment with a doctor.

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We do have free health care, it works. It’s underfunded and understaffed as a result of Conservatives trying to destroy the public services, which gets people expressing dissatisfaction with the service, which allows them to further stripmine the system by funneling public funds to private clinics and the like to ‘improve things’ when really they should be properly funding our public system and paying more people good wages to work there

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I live in NDP stronghold Victoria and we have way worse healthcare than Alberta for example.

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Similar to the other person that replied to you, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Some provinces have relatively crappy healthcare (looking at you, Alberta), but these outcomes are directly cause by conservative Premiers cutting funding to the system and policies that restrict immigrant doctors from being licensed with the schooling, experience, and licensing that was received in their country of origin.

Despite all of this, I don’t wait grossly long in the emergency room if I have to go, I’m able to get a doctor for prescriptions, and I have clinics I can go to if I need non-critical care. All of it free (excluding medication, dental and some other critical items)

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As a Canadian, this is news to me. I just used the free healthcare system a week ago.

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I’ve been on a waitlist for a family doctor for nearly 10 years

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What does this mean? You literally can’t see a doctor?

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That doesnt mean Canada doesnt have a healthcare system, lol. Just because your experience in one part of the country has been bad doesnt mean all of Canada is without healthcare.

Kind of a typical western Canadian perspective. Thinking your province represents the entire country.

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