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To be clear, universal healthcare is slowly failing in the UK

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By design of the ruling parties, not because universal healthcare is impossible

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One could argue ruling parties reducing funding for universal healthcare (reduction of giving to the poor) is inevitable.

#lateStageCapitalism

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And healthcare is an utter disaster in the US, your argument holds zero merit

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It really isn’t. It was being undermined by political powers who wanted to line their own pockets with a private system.

The Tory playbook is to underfund and sabotage public interest so they can claim it doesn’t work without private ownership.

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You just aggressively agreed with my statement while stating you disagreed at the beginning.

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No, your statement was indicating that universal healthcare was failing. It isn’t and has been successful in the UK for over 70 years.

When you say universal healthcare in the UK is failing with no additional context you are using the conservative rhetoric, which is damaging.

It’s like if you failed an exam because your class funding was cut to only give teachers half as much time to teach, then you claimed that education doesn’t work.

If we agree with each other on the broader points, then that’s great.

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saying somethins is being sabotaged isnt the same as saying it is failing. The sabotage must be successful for it to fail.

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we’ll see what Starmer does. So far his gestures have sounded promising, but you never know

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Because conservatives are deliberately sabotaging it.

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Just so you know, a majority of Canadians want to either try or adopt the US system

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The Canadian system broke due to abuse by some types of immigrants, failure to attract and keep docters and nurses, and the never ending greener pasture to the south that offers doctors a more attractive and better paying lifestyle than Canada

the Canadian system is broken because we have to share a border with America. It wasn’t the abject horror until the doctors and nurses quit from the covid days, and we flooded a bunch of bad Immigrants in who had no interest in doing anything but abusing the country for all they could cash out on.

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I love that the blame has to be pushed onto immigrants who pay the same taxes we all do. Who receive the same socialised benefits we do.

Rather than blame the government rats that have been siphoning cash away from public infrastructure for decades. Have you taken a look at Doug Ford or Danielle Smith? Have you listened to Pierre Pollievre talk his dogshit plans for privatisation in Canada?

Why come so close to hitting the mark only to blame it on immigrants that only serve to strengthen the system if they too weren’t taken advantage of by parliamentary ghouls.

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it’s not the driving factor. but merely the ugly truth about an overlooked issue thats flown under the radar with this whole thing.

to clarify, when Im talking about “bad immigrants abusing the system” I’m talking about people who come here on a fake student visa or otherwise scammed their way in, Obtained a PR, also scammed under the same student visa path they took . and then scheming to get multiple family members brought over to join them under the family reunification path, and all of a sudden one person turns into 18 people . they come over, have zero interest in integrating, they just want to milk the land for what they can get, one of them being everyone utilizing the healthcare system for expensive services they wouldn’t otherwise get at home.

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The majority of Canadians, or the majority if Canadian politicians?

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That first link says that most people want the government to pay a lot more… That doesn’t really seem like “we want the US system”

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You need extensive therapy

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I’ll gladly swap citizenship with any Canadian! Come and claim your coverage by our wonderful privatized healthcare system! No take backsies

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Idiots are everywhere on this shithole of a planet

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The US is barely a developed nation. The Economist reclassified the US as a flawed democracy in 2022. There were also proposals by members of the UNCTAD to reclassify the US as a developing nation in 2023, a classification formerly known as third world. The proposals were unsupported by the World Bank.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/09/15/us-is-becoming-a-developing-country-on-global-rankings-that-measure-democracy-inequality/

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I don’t remember where I heard this, but someone a while back called America a “third-world country but with Walmarts.” And while the “third-world” moniker is a bit dated and problematic, I think the rest fits pretty well.

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The US is like the Two-Face or Jekyll/Hyde of developed nations. It’s more like a developing nation with islands of modernity AND Walmarts.

We have all this money, military, cultural influence, universities, businesses, and so many other by-the-numbers indicators of a modern society. But we don’t have the quality of life, and we just elected Donald Trump in goddamn 2024. Decisively so. Fuck.

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That was before Trump won. I think the category moved from developing to post-apocalyptic.

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Pre-apocalyptic as of now, but things could change quickly.

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Only 33 developed countries exist?

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Most of the planet is slave labor.

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According to Wikipedia it’s 40:

USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Macau, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and big parts of Europe.

Wikipedia - Developed Country

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you forgot Japan and Israel!

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Thanks, I didn’t notice Israel’s blue spot and also forgot Japan in my list.

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The world’s 33 developed nations

Colonialism brain

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