I noticed today an occurence of a user complaining about Lemmy being worse then Reddit. The modlogs shows how toxic they are. When this was pointed out, the user deletes their account
https://web.archive.org/web/20241217101003/https://sopuli.xyz/post/20276017?scrollToComments=true
Deleted account: https://kbin.melroy.org/u/Pyrin
This seems to address the question that comes up once in a while “a public modlog is only useful for mods” (https://feddit.org/post/4920887/3235141), while we can see from this example that it can also be useful for toxic users.
As you may know, !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com is a community dedicated to calling out power tripping mods.
Should we consider having a similar community for toxic users?
There is already !fediverselore@lemmy.ca, but I feel like the “lore” is more about large-scale events (like the cats wave recently) than specific users events.
Edit: Updated the title, and put the emphasis on creating a community to call out toxic users rather than “dunking” on the users that was banned.
Calling out mods for what? Not allowing your brand of freeze peach? Personally I think Lemmy needs more strong moderators because right now most instance’s “all” feeds are just another stale parade of “memes”. There is a lot of junk filler, and very few unique communities that make the Lemmyverse something that stands apart from Reddit.
I would also encourage instance admins to de-federate instances that host your idea of a “community” purpose built to publicly “call out” users. It’s toxic.
How is your instance doing ?
Why I left Startrek.website, created TenForward, and the admin abuse I’ve suffered from ST.W since then
https://lemmy.world/post/11959030
Also, about the mods, that community already exists, it’s !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
!meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
for some
I’m kind of upset that this ‘toxic’ person came from the same instance as I’m using. Most people I encounter on the local pages aren’t bad folks.
Usually kbin.melroy.org users are nice indeed
Lemmy is worse than reddit though. Especially if you don’t block .ml.
Though they have predictably gotten quieter now that the election is over.
Which is worse depends a lot on how much you weight each of their flaws. Personally I think that Lemmy still behaves better than Reddit, even considering that Lemmy behaviour is getting worse over time.
So, focusing solely on aspects where Lemmy is worse than Reddit, IMO:
- witch hunting
- intrusive soapboxing
- bossing others around with uncalled advice
Fedigrow:
To discuss how to grow and manage communities / magazines on Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed and Sublinks
How is this post relevant to this community? You posted it here because you’re a moderator so you know it won’t be removed?
Dunking on someone who was (rightfully) banned isn’t the kind of post that fosters good community interactions. The moderation system works, that’s great. Can we not give more oxygen to the troll’s commentary?
As I stated on the OP
Not sure where to post this, but I guess this can be seen as “growing the nice atmosphere of Lemmy”
I was also suggesting to maybe open another community for this kind of reports, so that fit indeed the purpose of Fedigrow.
Dunking on someone who was (rightfully) banned The moderation system works, that’s great. Can we not give more oxygen to the troll’s commentary?
In this case, it doesn’t seem like they were banned, just that they deleted their account. Not 100% sure as Mbin interface might look different from Lemmy (where “banned” is visible when someone is banned).
So it’s not sure that it was the moderation system that worked in this case, more the modlog.
In any case, this post can be used as an evidence when people as “how does a public modlog make Lemmy better than Reddit”, which is a question that comes up quite once in a while: https://feddit.org/post/4920887/3235141
As much as I do enjoy the Fediverse, I feel as if the intent of this post was more about dunking on an admittedly bad-faith user to show off how cool we are, and not the bit about growing the nice atmosphere of Lemmy. Although to be fair I’m not sure I understand what you mean by
I guess this can be seen as “growing the nice atmosphere of Lemmy”
so I could be wrong. Would you mind elaborating?
I feel it would have been better to just let this guy get banned and forget about it, or to start a post with the title being along the lines of
how does a public modlog make Lemmy better than Reddit
instead of what we have, which summarizes the specific actions of the user who deleted their account.
I am glad a toxic user was banned, no sympathy there, but I feel as this thread is a “Lemmy good Reddit and Redditors bad” party and it was started with this intent, with the thing about modlogs being cool being tacked on after the fact to try to legitimize the post. Yes, I prefer Lemmy to Reddit, but I’d rather keep Fedigrow a nice mature space about how to grow our numbers instead of a place to dunk on the larger, competing site. Maybe !reddit@lemmy.world would have been more appropriate space.
I came from the Reddit migration too, and back when I was on Reddit there were some pretty nice people over there. There were some awful people too but you get that with every population. Let us not do the whole “Lemmy cool kids, Reddit all neckbeards!” crap, please.
Thank you for your comment.
so I could be wrong. Would you mind elaborating?
The idea would be indeed to create a community that allows to call out toxic and troll users such as the one in the OP. That community would allow to make Lemmy a better place, in the same way than !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com allows to reduce the power tripping mods.
how does a public modlog make Lemmy better than Reddit
I’ll edit the title with something along those lines.
Let us not do the whole “Lemmy cool kids, Reddit all neckbeards!” crap, please.
I see. That’s definitely not the intent, I’ll make sure to rephrase the title and post accordingly.
Just updated the title and the body post, let me know what you think
Edit: hopefully the edits federate, if not: https://feddit.org/post/5768311
