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Is some idiot trying to outlaw medical equipment in the States?

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Mayor of New York

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I thought he was trying to reinstate a pre-Covid ban and it has exceptions for wearing masks for medical reasons?

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It’s not just about the disabled person, but anyone who lives with them needs to be wearing masks in public places because if they get sick it’s pretty hard to avoid spreading at home.

Medical exemptions have never been good enough.

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Thx. Seems I’m not too bad off, not following the news that closely… 😔

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Nice… Using a law that was meant for the Ku Klux Klan to repress democratic routine and freedom. At least that one seems to be targeted at protests and not all every day life. And it contains exemptions. I’m just not sure if “we want to film the faces of everyone who doesn’t agree with us” is a valid reason in a democracy. At least not on it’s own and if there isn’t some good reason to do it.

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At least that one seems to be targeted at protests

You’re celebrating that, rather than accidentally targeting immunocompromised people, it deliberately targets people exercising their constitutional right to dissent?

Btw, like with abortion, any exemptions a GOP ban has will just be a fig leaf for the complicit media that’s not going to be in effect in the vast majority of cases.

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7 points

Lol what a bunch of reactionary hicks

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5 points

The law allows people to wear medical or surgical-grade masks in public to prevent the spread of illness. Law enforcement and property owners can ask people to temporarily remove those masks to verify their identity.

Am I missing something, it looks like this law allows medical masks.

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The problem is that law enforcement doesn’t do nuance like that. You know full well they will tear masks right off of disabled/immunocompromised people’s faces (probably wrecking the mask forever) and point to the law as an excuse.

There’s no good reason to ban masks in general. The Healthcare CEO shooter wore a mask during the crime but the police still caught him.

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Ah yes, certainly this will never ever be abused by law enforcement ever.

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Victoria government in Australia

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It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.

High risk individuals rely on others wearing their mask to protect them from infection. Those people will effectively be relegated to their homes through the virus season if they want to remain safe. Hopefully they have the money to pay for deliveries for the season.

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I can’t believe we are you still have to explain this in 2024. I have zero faith in humanity left, aside from Luigi ofc.

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The reason they want you to not wear masks is, facial recognition that is literally everywhere doesn’t work if your masked. You can help protect the vulnerable and yourself from invasive tracking with this one simple trick.

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That may be a side effect but it’s not the reason.

The reason is that they don’t want to be told what to do by the government. They want to use the government to tell other people what to do.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

This is about wielding power.

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Just to pile on to that thought, it’s also a wedge issue that makes stupid people very angry, and angry people are motivated to be politically active. They will shout down reasonable people, commit acts of violence, and vote in reliable numbers. Polite society tends to avoid political debate, in part because the angry morons show up to disrupt the quiet.

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Government: “wear a mask to protect others”

Conservatives: “Nuh uh! You can’t tell me what to do! Hurr durr honk honk muh freedumbs!!”

Government: “wearing a mask is strictly prohibited”

Conservatives: “As you wish, my sire, whose boot shall I lick?”

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facial recognition that is literally everywhere doesn’t work if your masked.

Afaik that’s illegal within the EU. Also, there’s more than just facial recognition. They can even learn the way you walk.

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Yeah there is way more digital human recognition going on than we all like to acknowledge here in the states.

I must admit I’m super jealous of you Europeans. I’m very happy that you ladies and gents over there have a more formed and functional governance and your not yet in our predicament.

Watching a documentary of the first peoples of Ireland and wish I could be there instead of here right now.

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The reason I don’t want you to wear masks is I don’t like being surrounded by faces I can’t read.

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It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.

While this is generally true, I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that a properly-fitted respirator provides very good protection. Even more so if it’s an elastomeric with P100 filters (99.97% PFE with absurdly high fit factors).

But…

You’re absolutely right, if everyone would consistently wear at least an earloop respirator like a KF94 or KN95 — even if the quality is a bit sketchy and even if the fit is less than ideal — that would cut down on viral particulate emissions a great deal and task your own respirator with orders of magnitude less particulate to filter out.

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I wear a P100 because I can’t trust my fellow Americans to wear so much as a scarf.

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Yep I’ve had a cold all last week and have been masking up for my grocery runs. It’s just about being a decent human being.

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The people who ban masks are so self centered that they think a masked person assumes that they are sick, or dirty. They never even comprehend that it might be to help them, because they don’t understand helping people

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It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.

It’s more effective for others to wear them than for you to wear them. But it is still beneficial to wear a mask outside when you’re at risk of contagion, assuming you pair it with hand sanitizer and other preventative measures.

Those people will effectively be relegated to their homes through the virus season if they want to remain safe.

At some point, telling people not to leave their homes if they want any kind of safety, but denying them access to medical equipment because it makes you feel unsafe only serves to deflect responsibility from the able-bodied to the vulnerable.

It would be like telling people in wheelchairs that ramps make me feel clumsy so you just shouldn’t leave your house if you want full mobility.

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Exactly. I find it strange that someone who’s immune system is compromised to the point where a ‘common cold’ can kill them has been just hanging out in public and it’s only a problem now. Masks weren’t invented in 2020. Op is likely farming Internet points.

I’ve had a compromised immune system before. Going out in public and trusting a mask to protect me would be like wearing safety goggles when you jump into a wood chipper.

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27 points

An N95 mask protects the wearer too.

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It does, and you should wear it. But if you are immunocompromised (like me) you also need to protect your eyes, and wash your clothes, skin, and hair following a trip out in public. The days when people were wearing masks were wonderful.

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19 points

Sometimes going out in public is necessary, such as to the doctor, or to get food if there’s not someone to help with that. And sometimes it requires passing through other public spaces, such as public transportation. A person can have no illusions about the degree to which masks help, but still depend on them because what else is there?

As the spouse and caregiver of a compromised person, I wear a KN95 anytime I go into a store or other indoor public space, to try to avoid catching and bringing home anything that might land him in the hospital again.

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15 points

Yeah. Clearly, they should just stay inside their plastic bubbles and never see the sun so that the rest of us don’t have to worry about coughing in other people’s faces.

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52 points

Anti-maskers are like 6 year olds throwing a tantrum because you’re making them eat broccoli.

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53 points

More like because you’re eating broccoli.

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If it’s a complete mask ban, then it’s more like they’re throwing a tantrum because you’re eating broccoli.

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Those who oppose it for themselves during a pandemic are just children refusing to do their part to help others.

Those who oppose it for others are sex perverts. They oppose masks solely because they want to be able to see the faces of random people in the street so they can commit them to memory and later masturbate to them. Really they belong on the sex offender registry.

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9 points

Umm… You should talk to someone.

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Found the sex pervert!

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32 points

The mayor of NYC is talking about it because of Luigi. My brother in Christ, Luigi doesn’t care about your mask ban.

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Ok, Mayor Adams, you’re in favor of a mask ban.

So anyway, back to what we were talking about, why haven’t you resigned despite being indicted for corruption and influence-peddling?

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4 points

Just start coughing. NYC remembers 2020.

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42 points

is this under the assumption that this isn’t the point? they’re fascists, getting rid of disabled people is on brand and purposeful.

reminder that the party of “death panels will kill your grandma if anyone gets affordable healthcare” actively called for the death of grandmas when they didn’t want to be inconvenienced by a piece of cloth over their mouth.

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Not to mention it’s been private unaccountable death panels for grandma this whole time even before covid. They have it coming.

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To be extra fair… They’ve been BY grandma for grandma.

The grandma vote wants this and is leaning into it.

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They’ve been manipulated into this, sadly.

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