Summary

A new WalletHub poll reveals that 74% of Americans believe Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs will worsen inflation, which remains a major concern for most households.

Trump’s plan includes significant tariffs—up to 60% on Chinese goods and 20% on other imports—to protect American jobs and address issues like fentanyl production and border security.

Experts warn these tariffs could increase consumer prices, with middle-income families potentially losing $2,500 annually.

Analysts caution Trump’s plans may face political hurdles in Congress despite his economic-focused campaign promises.

8 points

This country deserves the absolute worst. Burn it all down.

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Yep. Fuck everyone that bothered to vote against the fascists. Fuck everyone in a blue spot in red states that voted against the other idiots around them.

Or - maybe we realize that people should actually bother to vote even if they have to vote for a candidate that doesn’t align 100% with their values.

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-6 points

Even if Harris won, that wouldn’t have changed anything materially with the country. There’s a deep rot in the country, and it’s just getting worse regardless of who’s winning elections.

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2 points

This is not true. I don’t understand why you’re even saying this obvious both-sides propaganda after the election. Harris would not have tanked the economy like Trump’s about to. Biden recovered the damage trump did in his first term and it’s reasonable to think Harris would have continued that trend.

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5 points

Unless you count everything

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If Trump lost in 2016 abortion would still be legal and pregnant women wouldn’t be dying of sepsis.

You are demonstrably wrong.

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1 point

I agree. Let’s just hit the giant reset button, it won’t be fun, in fact it’ll be quite the opposite, but our current trajectory is no good and unsustainable anyway.

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47 points

We can all agree that polling is completely meaningless now yeah? It obviously has zero correlation with reality.

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12 points

Why? The polls showed Trump winning and he won, if anything they got more accurate.

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Even if they didnt show him winning, a poll saying its roughly 50/50 is like saying to someone your going to flip a coin and then them being flabbergasted when it comes out tails, what did you expect, its probability, not the current vote percentage.

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It was an election season where the race was polling around 50/50 pretty much throughout. Even when one candidate had a lead, with margins of error, no they didn’t. A ~50% probability of losing is huge, even if many polls did show her slightly ahead. Consider a 20-sided die. 9 sides are red, 11 are blue. You wouldn’t be surprised if you rolled red.

News media has no idea how to talk about polls because they don’t want to talk about probability, they want to talk about which number is bigger as if it’s a scoreboard. I didn’t want him to win, but the polls weren’t wrong.

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2 points

Good explanation

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Let him do this tariff thing. Maybe people will finally learn how “good” he and his party is with money when the US economy is completely ruined.

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I understand the appeal of “teaching them a lesson”, purely for spiteful reasons. But there are problems with that approach:

  • You can teach a child never to put his hand on the burner by putting his hand on the burner. He’ll learn alright, but he’ll also have a nasty burn. Similarly, you don’t want people to learn the dangers of populism and extreme right by letting the extreme-right populist do stupid shit and wreck their lives.

  • We who didn’t vote for the dangerous populist live in the same country as those who did: even if we wanted to let the dangerous populist hurt them to teach them a lesson, he’ll hurt us too in the process.

  • History always repeat itself: even if everybody learns a hard lesson after Trump is done wrecking the economy - or worse - our children, or our children’s children will invariably elect another Trump some day. So we might as well do our best to limit the damage each time.

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It is not spiteful. I’m looking at this from the outside (as far as anyone can be with a world-dominating economy like the US), and I’ve given up any hope that Americans as such would learn without really, really painful lessons that manage to pass even through the thick skulls of the MAGA-heads. I don’t wish anyone to suffer, but at the moment I cannot see any way for this lesson to set in without it.

That innocent people are hurt is horrible. But as only a smaller number of citizens have voted for the smart alternative, those who didn’t vote and those who voted for Trump together are the majority. It could have been prevented if enough people had gotten their asses out of their houses - but that did not happen. And the death wish for the US was strong - Hitler only had about 33% of the votes and had to resort to political tricks to get where Trump was carried to by a majority of the voters. Think about that.

And yes, history repeats itself. You were extremely lucky to skip a few cycles - in comparison to e.g. Europe - but the signs were there for a long time, and way to few people cared. Maybe we all get lucky and it “just” turns into a 1929+ depression, focused primarily on the US.

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Your second point only applies to people who voted against him. If you didn’t vote you voted for him.

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4 points

Probably not, they’ll still find a way to put the blame on others.

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I mean, people are still fueling the flames now for not voting Democrat because AOC is being shafted by the establishment, ignoring the bigger picture. When the GQP proves to be far, far worse, they will still be spouting something akin that both sides are the same. Part of it has to do because propaganda campaigns plays both sides and this is the way the side that could vote Democrat is played nowadays.

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Republicans have been tanking the economy my entire life. Their voters do not learn

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Looking at what Trump is planning, you have seen nothing yet.

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What American jobs is he protecting? We DON’T HAVE ANY manufacturing in the US to speak of anymore. At best we assemble stuff here that is made for n China. Except for car companies, what true industry is left?

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The American car manufacturers moved their production to Mexico, meaning they’ll rise the prices on them due to the tariffs. And from what I read somewhere (and I can be completely wrong), the only car manufacturer that produces the car in America is one of the Japanese ones (Hyundao, Toyota etc). Still funny to think that “Japanese” cars are made in America, and “American” cars are made in Mexico 😂

Edit: i got no clue about cars

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Tesla has two factories in the US.

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Very true! Forgot about them (and I have a Tesla 🤣🤣🤣 obligatory fuck musk). I think my mind was on ICE cars only.

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NAFTA. Or “the great big sucking sound” spoken of by H Ross Perot, the rich guy that owned EDS.

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Hyundai is Korean.

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Goes to show how much I know about cars 😂

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“Gets”

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