“I do fear that the pressure to make better TVs will be lost…”…

61 points

I am not buying a tv that shows me ads. Ever.

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You can buy commercial televisions that have only functional software, long uptime ratings, and an absurd amount of inputs. They’re designed to be advertisement displays so they can have some lag, and some have low color accuracy, but they’re barebones workhorses.

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absurd amount of inputs

SCART anyone? My 2007 TV has three but they absolutely vanished in 10 years.

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9 points

yes. this title is a laundry list of why im out of buying a new tv for the foreseeable future.

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6 points

Modern TV plus your streaming device. I only get home menu ads from roku. I don’t like them, but at least the apps aren’t full of ads aside from putting “continue watching” on the fifth or sixth row.

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I keep seeing people say, “don’t connect your TV to the internet. Of course, this is good advice, and I follow it, but y’all know that pretty soon the TV won’t work unless it’s connected, right? I mean, that has to be coming.

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Hopefully, the market will decide during transition. Keurig tried to use barcoded pods to ensure customers would exclusively purchase first-party coffee. Those coffee makers stopped selling and Nespresso had a market boom. Keurig returned to producing the non-barcoded machines a year later.

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7 points

My TCL did this like 4 years ago. I went to sell it so I updated it, factory reset it… and it literally wouldn’t get past the setup until it had connectivity. I didn’t fight with it though. I just powered it off and handed it too a buyer who probably didn’t think twice about it.

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4 points

If that happens you don’t really own the TV.

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y’all know that pretty soon the TV won’t work unless it’s connected, right? I mean, that has to be coming.

It’s not coming into my home if it tries to force that.

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It already has

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1 point

Captive dns, pihole and proper vlans and firewalls.

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Any recommendations for the captive dns? Can I run it on the same pi as pihole?

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My router blocks any port 53 traffic out that isn’t using the pihole then forwards it to the pihole. That way hard coded shit like IoT devices etc are all forced to use the pihole.

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In no place in the world having internet is mandatory. That reasoning, although credible considering the world we are experiencing, makes no sense.

I still find plenty of non-smart TVs in the market. Not name brand and all below the 40 inch mark but fine enough for watching a show.

What else do we need?

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18 points

Never ever connect a TV directly to the Internet.

Tell the sales staff that you do not have Internet at home.

If the device does not function without an Internet connection, return it to the store as “not fit for purpose”.

If you want to access online services on your TV, always use a separate STB like an AppleTV or FireStick.

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Thing is… Fire sticks are loaded with ads too (at least in stock configuration, different story once you tweak or so-called “jailbreak”)

As for now I just connect my Linux HTPC I grabbed for $30

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Thanks. Honestly, we have a house full of Apple TVs and (except for the game consoles) I was struggling to find anything that was comparable that preserves (or claims to preserve) privacy.

I know a lot of people don’t trust Apple, and the latest tvOS is not as good as older versions.

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14 points

Ads? Man, I need to replace my OLED because of screen burn-in, but I’m definitely not going to pay money to see ads. Are there any TVs left that don’t push ads directly to the TV?

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Depends where those ads are coming from. I don’t ever connect my LG OLED to the internet and my roku gets filtered by a pihole. The only ads I see are from the over-the-air programming from my antenna.

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We currently have an LG connected to the internet, but I never see any ads. It has to be connected to the internet because it’s connected to the home WiFi for casting.

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We currently have an LG connected to the internet, but I never see any ads

How old a model is it?

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10 points

Show us a ‘dumb’ TV and get ready to make a mint.

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Sceptre is the name I see whenever there’s a discussion about who still makes dumb TVs.

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