“I do fear that the pressure to make better TVs will be lost…”…

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Show us a ‘dumb’ TV and get ready to make a mint.

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Sceptre is the name I see whenever there’s a discussion about who still makes dumb TVs.

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10 points

Buy PC monitors instead. Problem solved.

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They are starting to add junk to monitors too.

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I keep seeing people say, “don’t connect your TV to the internet. Of course, this is good advice, and I follow it, but y’all know that pretty soon the TV won’t work unless it’s connected, right? I mean, that has to be coming.

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In no place in the world having internet is mandatory. That reasoning, although credible considering the world we are experiencing, makes no sense.

I still find plenty of non-smart TVs in the market. Not name brand and all below the 40 inch mark but fine enough for watching a show.

What else do we need?

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It already has

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Hopefully, the market will decide during transition. Keurig tried to use barcoded pods to ensure customers would exclusively purchase first-party coffee. Those coffee makers stopped selling and Nespresso had a market boom. Keurig returned to producing the non-barcoded machines a year later.

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My TCL did this like 4 years ago. I went to sell it so I updated it, factory reset it… and it literally wouldn’t get past the setup until it had connectivity. I didn’t fight with it though. I just powered it off and handed it too a buyer who probably didn’t think twice about it.

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1 point

Captive dns, pihole and proper vlans and firewalls.

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Any recommendations for the captive dns? Can I run it on the same pi as pihole?

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My router blocks any port 53 traffic out that isn’t using the pihole then forwards it to the pihole. That way hard coded shit like IoT devices etc are all forced to use the pihole.

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y’all know that pretty soon the TV won’t work unless it’s connected, right? I mean, that has to be coming.

It’s not coming into my home if it tries to force that.

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If that happens you don’t really own the TV.

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Never ever connect a TV directly to the Internet.

Tell the sales staff that you do not have Internet at home.

If the device does not function without an Internet connection, return it to the store as “not fit for purpose”.

If you want to access online services on your TV, always use a separate STB like an AppleTV or FireStick.

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Thing is… Fire sticks are loaded with ads too (at least in stock configuration, different story once you tweak or so-called “jailbreak”)

As for now I just connect my Linux HTPC I grabbed for $30

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Thanks. Honestly, we have a house full of Apple TVs and (except for the game consoles) I was struggling to find anything that was comparable that preserves (or claims to preserve) privacy.

I know a lot of people don’t trust Apple, and the latest tvOS is not as good as older versions.

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Don’t forget no software updates after 3 years.

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Don’t use your TV’s interface for anything other than changing inputs. Television software is well-known for privacy infringement.

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I got flamed for being surprised that anyone would actually use their TV for anything other than a display for their console or computer.

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Yes. Looking for business displays (digital signage displays) now, not consumer tvs. Afaik, these come bare bones without all the bloatware, except maybe a video player for an external or network source.

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