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Wow this one really brought out the votes, both kinds 😂

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Putting the agitation in agitprop

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great thread OP

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It really hit the right balance, it prompted discussion in what is (hopefully) a productive manner by highlighting mass support for violence against billionaires compared to the actions of AES states. Hopefully people start reading Marx after this.

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The original was funny to me because people thought the second guy was fine when the reality would be if a woman is calling human resources there’s probably something there. It’s a joke told from the perspective of someone who’s unable to see anything wrong and is only representing their side of the story. So I thought this was a riff on that idea, and viewed in that light this version is funny too.

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Oppressing the owners of capital is good, actually. If you don’t do it you end up like the US where everyone has to pay them for everything all the time and the police is only there to prevent you from doing anything about it.

Chinese people don’t have to go out and get jailed for doming a mass murdering CEO out of desperation, the government gladly prosecutes and makes an example of them.

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Except Xi Jinping is not oppressing owners of capital. China has lots of oligarchs that in some ways have a tighter grip on society than their western counterparts. He’s oppressing people that are “inconvenient” to him.

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He’s oppressing people that are “inconvenient” to him.

All vibes, no thoughts.

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These are all vibes, can you explain exactly how and why you believe Xi is simply “oppressing those invonvenient” to him?

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Did you get that info from the same dudes insisting that killing Brian Thompson was, like, not okay guys? Businessmen in China are scared shitless of the party, and so should they, the party has 87 million members and a 90+ approval rating.

There’s no CEO in china wielding one tenth of the influence that weird nazi Elon Musk has, or Bill Gates’ vaccine privatizing ass.

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China ranks second in the world in number of millionaires as well as number of billionaires.

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China ranks second in the world in human population, too.

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  1. Quantity of bourgeoisie is not an indication of who runs the country or which is primary, public or private property

  2. China has the second biggest population in the world, period.

The PRC saw what happened when you cracked down too hard on wealth inequality too early in the USSR, there was significant brain drain and people took what they could elsewhere. This eventually led to decreased growth and contributed to collapse. The PRC instead allows billionaires (so long as they don’t commit crimes), and as a consequnce they now have the largest economy by PPP and second largest by GDP. It’s a “boiling the frog” approach.

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Per capita or total?

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By this logic, a monarchy that keeps the aristocracy in line is better than the US democracy. A benevolent dictator is still a dictator.

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In what manner is Xi a dictator? The fact that he has been reelected democratically and hasn’t lost to someone else?

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The problem with a benevolent dictator is that they die eventually, and are replaced by a non-benevolent dictator, or a civil war, or both. Unfortunately it looks like the US democracy might have the same outcome.

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Yeah, but they get jailed for literally anything else lol

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Brother the US has ONE FIFTH of the world’s inmates (in dire conditions that provide slave labor) despite having less than 5% of the world population.

If y’all didn’t thoughtlessly and immediately internalize whatever outlandish shit your media tells you about the yellow peril you’d be envious of their living standards and, honestly? Their political freedom too.

That’s the point.

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What do you mean?

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Working class executing CEOs that work against them

Ruling class executing CEOs who don’t work for them

Slight difference

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That’s an anti-Marxist view of class. What is the “ruling class” you speak of in the PRC? Government isn’t class, but an extension of the class in power, so which class is in power?

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It’s the latter part of “no god’s no masters”

I’m sorry if I’ve insulted Marxist purity

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You can be an Anarchist if you want to, but you should at least do so using actual analysis and not sloganeering.

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No toilet paper no homework

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Oh no, you depicted me as a nerd! My point is ruined 😭

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There is never a case of a working class party conquering political power, that hasn’t been demonized by western anti-communist society.

When the US and its media tells you that the leaders China or Cuba or Vietnam are just “dictators”, why do you believe them?

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Absolutely. Power is the difference. Vertical power structures all look the same. Call it communism, but those at the bottom are still ruled by those at the top. Instead give me some of that horizontal, bottom up power. No gods, no masters.

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